Restructuring in Signavio

Many individuals on this forum assert that Signavio differs significantly from other SAP entities, yet they overlook the fact that Signavio serves as a testing ground for SAP. But various strategies are experimented with there before being implemented across other Lines of Business (LoBs). This pattern was evident when HR personnel transitioned into development management roles, when HPOM was implemented with Signavio as the first runner and the integration of AI features into Signavio products which became widespread in SAP.

What you observe in Signavio in late 2026 and early 2027 is expected to take place in your LoB six to twelve months later.

Signavio is poised to undergo its most substantial reorganization in the fourth quarter of 2026 and the first quarter of 2027. This restructuring will fundamentally alter the leadership framework within Product Management and Engineering. The objective is to establish additional tiers between leadership and the entry-level product managers and engineers. Although this may appear counterproductive, here are the top three reasons for this decision.

1] Leadership faces challenges in promoting and increasing compensation for their acquaintances and relatives within SAP. A reorganization will facilitate this process. Under the guise of restructuring, they will fabricate roles that previously did not exist at Signavio. Individuals appointed to these positions will receive significant salary and bonus increases prior to the appraisal cycle. Consequently, they can claim a lack of funds, resulting in lower performance management ratings for other employees in the subsequent appraisal cycle. Of course there will be no money left for 2027 employee appraisals when most of the money goes to this new executive and their supporters who are getting moved around. Performance ratings will be severely bad for people of some races or from some countries especially from Asia Pacific regions. Muslims are safe and they will continue to see growth. But any religion besides Muslims and Christians are in big trouble. Remember that Signavio is an LoB that had 5% jewish employees and they got rid of them and today there is not a single Jew in Signavio. If you are Christian and do not pay church tax, you might as well pack your bags as they are coming after you next.

2] Signavio is targeting middle management for layoffs in 2027. The current uneven structure complicates the decision-making process regarding whom to terminate. Therefore, they are intentionally creating these additional layers to facilitate layoffs in late 2027. The reorganization will demonstrate that these layers are indeed superfluous, providing a compelling business rationale for their elimination. Most employees affected by this restructuring will be in their 40s and early 50s with few or no direct reports and currently serving as managers of managers. If you are part of such a box move, start updating your CV.

3] Certain roles are at significant risk. User Assistance (UA) is anticipated to be phased out in favor of AI solutions. Quality Assurance (QA) positions are expected to diminish in number, with many being supplanted by AI. Additionally, the role of Scrum Masters is projected to become obsolete. The number of DevOps is also supposed to reduce. The leadership knows that AI is not a good replacement for most of these roles but they don't care. They want them gone. So anyone in these roles will get very low performance management scores because SAP is trying to get rid of them without severance. And if they don't then they become part of the 2027 layoffs. But the people they want to save will be "transitioned" to another role which is safe such as a development manager role or a software developer role. If you get such a choice, take it. Anyone who doesn't will become an outlier and is part of the 2027 layoffs.

If you see similar changes in your LoB, get in touch with your works council member right away. This is a coordinated effort by SAP executives in different LoBs to facilitate layoffs. When the works council looks at this per LoB basis, the pattern is not exactly clear. But you will see the pattern in your LoBs.

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@OP I feel bad for Signavio. That group has been sc--wed over more than any other org and product in SAP. Unfortunately, people are let go so there’s a slot for a German to move to because of the works council. It’ll happen to the rest of the groups eventually.

@fd At Signavio and in other LOBs at SAP, you can grow if you have political power. Being good at your job doesn't really matter that much. If you don't have political power, you're better off elsewhere.

If any of this is true and they plan to do this in other LoBs, then all employees are in danger. This kind of nonsense will make SAP even more bloated and make it easier for CK and area executives to lay off employees by citing AI or other reasons. It seems they are purposefully creating unnecessary layers for layoffs in 2027.

@tt he's from Celonis. All his a-s li---rs are from Celonis or from early Signavio days. SAP needs to replace all of them. Doubling your salary every 5 years is normal for him and his a-s li---rs. It is not normal at SAP.

@rt Manzi might promote Petri. Or maybe Veit gets climbing the ladder even more thanks to the boating time between her husband and Wenz?

@rt what a scam! How a sales persons after 2 years doing product management 101 suddenly jump directly to a VP and now to a CPO?? The size of pm per product is insane. SAP needs good software tool not politicians.

Alesandro Manzi is being promoted to be a Chief Product Officer. He gets Andre Wenz last job. His current job is being given to one of the existing Vice Presidents in Product Management. And there is a new layer being created between the Vice Presidents and managers. These will be called Heads.

Earlier it was product manager reporting to manager of product managers reporting to vice presidents reporting to Alesandro Manzi. Now it will be product manager reporting to manager of product managers reporting to the new Head roles reporting to vice presidents reporting to Alesandro Manzi's replacement. Almost 100 product managers in Signavio. It is wild that there are so many for 5 software products and less than 200 engineers.

@qn the previous post was deleted.

@m3 all the leadership lapdogs are a director or head or VP now

@m5 Yes and it is not the original Signavio employees doing that. Less than 10% of the original Signavio employees were allowed to remain, the others left. Besides one Engineering VP, no one else in their real leadership is a former Signavio employee. Andre and Torsten are the ones who pushed to keep this party going. What they do in Signavio is peak dissonance compared to the rest of SAP that is struggling. And this reorg that the OP writes about is probably in product management. Thee out of four members of the product management leadership has been promoted at least once in the last three years. That is where they are adding another layer. This is not normal and the nepotism needs to stop.

@k0 an insult to SAP employees. Since Covid cost cuts, there were spending hundreds of thousands in events and parties, they feel untouchable and „the cool innovative kids“.

I'm more and more convinced that Signavio needs an Indian at the head of the organization.

Then all will be good.

Is there some information already shared regarding the new restructuring? More HR turning Development managers? What about the useless Product Management or the multiple “innovation” teams? How many Wenz’s a-s li---rs will be promoted? I see lot of bluffing tittles on LinkedIn

@hn yes. But stop calling it a hackathon. The actual hacking happens for less than two hours. And the partying happens for a week.

@h2 Twelve employees who were made development managers in the 2025 Signavio HPOM reorg had no experience in software development but they now have engineers reporting to them. They just happened to be in a role called people lead which was a coaching role an so they had direct reports. None of them have an idea of what we do on a daily basis. But if anyone speaks out, their next performance rating tanks. And the development managers who have engineering backgrounds, they have some of the worst unfiltered ratings in SAP. Just think about that for a moment. This is what we engineers have to deal with on a daily basis. And soon it will come to your LoBs too. The culture is so sh--e and we are being encouraged to leave.

@hn and even promoted despite the misbehaviours.

@fx This hackathon code camp has happened since the last 3 years.
Signavio managers are famous on Bloomberg for their not so clean image.

@fd Our org has recently hired someone from Signavio in Berlin on 6 months fellowship!

In the United States, direct contact with HR is rare. I might have met someone during hiring, induction day, or certain HR-led events, CSR initiatives, or learning programs. Other benefits topics rely on tickets or a helpline managed by outsourced services or temporary staff. That totals at most 8 or 9 times over two decades. The idea of a nonexistent HR team shifting into development managers is not practical here. It is possible that management tests changes on a smaller unit like Signavio before applying them broadly, while HR staff transitions might be limited to specific regions.

While the rest of SAP is struggling with layoff fears, Signavio spent almost 350000 EURO for an Andre Wenz party disguised as a hackathon. They flew employees from all over the world for their so called Code Camp. SAP should get rid of Signavio like we did with Qualtrics. They do not deserve to be here.

@ef 4 years ago the lowest level employee at Signavio was 4 managers away from L1. Now the lowest level Signavio employee is 7 managers away from L1. They added one level in the HPOM reorganisation and they have already told in the All Hands that they are adding another layer. Have you been living under a rock? This is how Signavio works. That's why other LoBs are not hiring anyone from signavio walkme or leanix anymore. That place is infested with useless middle managers.

Sheesh, why is this tiny entity named "Signavio" featuring here so often? Mate, you are so different from the rest of SAP that your experiences cannot be transferred anywhere.

Also, adding layers and then targeting middle management? This does not make any sense at all.

Sorry, the OP is talking nonsense.

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