Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Please explain this: "Through Contracting house / agency period."

Through Contracting house / agency period.

@f0 Hawala my brother.

Immigration dep. needs to check the advertisement evidence submitted along with the labor certification application Bodyshoppers are the worst they advertise in the most cr-ppy news papers on the back pages. Not to mention the approved labor certifications that were being sold for 25k knew a guy that bought one in 2007.

Here is one way:

1. Mgr opens a crypto wallet in country X, connects to a local bank.
2. The recruiter has a wallet in country X
3. Mgr has a deal with the recruiter and hires the recruiter's candidate
4. Recruiter collects $30K placement fee from the hiring company
5. $15K is deposited in the mgrs wallet, the recruiter's company keeps $15K
   Alternatively, under #1, the mgr's wife opens up pvt ltd or opc in country x, the money get's deposited there as a 'consulting' fee for a made up no-deliverable work or advisory

It all starts with the recruiters.

The job posting stays out for only a short time so few real humans reply in time.

The recruiter pulls two resumes that a job shop or bribe swindler shoved up her backside and gifts them to the manager. "Pick one," she say.

Then the manger does the rest of the work to make sure the right candidate gets the ofer, no matter how bad.

Not in Cisco but similar story at a retail shop in NorCal. D-mbA$$ Indian manager comes to me asking to interview a candidate. Candidate happens to have the same lastname as the manager (big surprise). Candidate was no where close to what the position was for. forget about technical skills candidate could not even speak English properly. So I conveyed that back to HR. Candidate was hired eventually and I was never asked to interview anyone again.

It really doesn't matter if the req was posted externally or not. By the time the req is approved they already know who they are hiring, they will just schedule enough interviews to be able to say they tried to hire locally but couldn't. Interviews are not recorded and everything relies on the interviewer panel feedback.

I've seen it happen to others and I have been a victim of it myself. One time I recommended an engineer that I didn't interview, but attended his interview, and he was given a really extravagant roasting by a smug interviewer, he tore this poor guy down to bits. Why? Because he was an internal candidate, he made sure to make him feel unqualified and inadequate so the interviewer would not have a doubt why he was not selected. He already had someone he wanted for that role, just had to go through the motions to make him the only candidate... And he got his way, they hired his candidate, who promptly effed up, repeatedly, and was let go after a year. I recommended the other guy for my team and he has been a top performer so far, when I talked to him he could not believe he was getting the role because he was convinced he was totally unqualified, which he was not.

I went through something similar, got grilled on an interview, made feel like I should go back to elementary school and they hired a person from the sub-continent that couldn't even figure how to plug in an SFP... But I was the id--t because I didn't knew some ASIC's commands like they were my ABCs.

The H-1B visa is controlled by the company, not the employee so it gives the company a form of leverage they can't apply to citizens.

In my experience at Cisco the Indian people I worked with were no better or worse than those from the US, which is to say the lion's share of both really couldn't do the job. With that being the case I can't come up with a reasonable explanation for why more than 90% of the people under my highest level director in the US were Indian, particularly when Cisco was being sued for having too many white employees. The code bases have always been garbage so it's not like that added control lead to anything resembling quality.

@ap This is ad responding. You've answered my first question from below. See @ad.

It's that simple they are nationalists who only want to hire their countrymen.

Report this to Immigration. it might feel like a small thing but if enough people report they will come knocking

@as do tell more

i am not the @op but i'd love to learn more about this...

you cannot find this info anywhere

@OP new to CISCO...cisco runs on indian caste system...there were litigation too.
i personally know a LOT about cisco .. u must be new

infosys , tech mahindra and few others - they do rebadge based on whether you are providing free labor like grocey service..i can write a book if you want more :)

@aq i am not the @op but here it goes

South Asia, with a population of 2.04 billion, contains a quarter (25%) of the world's population. As commonly conceptualised, the modern states of South Asia include Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, the Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka

@ap

South Asian

hmm.. West South Asian or East South Asian?

@op here... The manager is South Asian. The jobs were posted on the Careers @ Cisco portal (Product & Eng section)

When it all finishes going to sh-t 100% 2A will correct the H1B and all other immigration issues.

A few basic questions to answer:

• Is the hiring manager or even skip level or people involved in the hiring decision Indian? If so, this is the strongest suspicion.
• Second to that, another scam they pull is they send a qualified and well-rehearsed/well-seasoned person for the interview, but then when they are hired they send someone else who is less qualified (and cheaper). Possible?

Since they are having communication problems, either your interview process didn't cover that, or the second possibility above is what happened.

Where was the job publicly posted?

Sometimes you don’t find talent in a location or the when they were interviewed they were the best from the people who applied.
People who already have H1B Visa they can apply and it does not trigger cost

@OP Is the hiring manager/decision maker an Indian? If so, there's your answer (Indian Mafia).
"Was there some other incentive to hire through the H1B program?"
Companies probably get some kind of kickback from the federal government, indian government of tech company that brings them over. The H1B program is a massive scam, and it is hurting American citizens and tech workers. But Big IT doesn't care, the bottom line is all that matters.

@OP what is your managers’s ethnicity?