Thread regarding Humana Inc. layoffs

Seems to me Humana is still trying to figure it out?! I have been here long enough to see a couple of 'restructures'. They create roles and internal associates apply. Then 5ish years later they restructure again and eliminate the roles they created leaving associates out of jobs and applying internally. Except for associates lucky enough to be the 'favored' ones in the 'inner circle'. I have witnessed many times associates miraculously 'accept' a promotion to another position just a few months (or less) from their prior position being elliminated. Folks, not a coincidence! I have seen job postings post for less than a day. They know who they want in the role. Some associates are protected and given a little nudge by the powers at be before the bo-b drop. I recall applying for a role created during the provider simplicity restructure and I was frustrated I was not selected. My manager let me know I should be thankful as those positions don't survive. I didn't believe her at the time, but she was right. Humana eliminated the role. I know of an associate in her 60s who landed a role reporting to corporate. She was/is awsome, really knows her stuff and knocked the ball out of the park in the role. They eliminated the position. She was able to land a job internally, but with a huge pay cut and a slice of humble pie since it was entry level. She is ok with it, having a second source of income with her husband. Her experience and knowledge is wasted in her current role. She has so much potential, and much to give. Humana is wasting resources. Another observation, the early retirement packages for admin cost reduction. I know of several who decided to accept the offer, and 3 months later Humana is backfilling the positions. Sorry for the long read but Humana is definitely far from being loyal to the employees.

Companies with unions are the only one I know of that must give preference to internal candidates by seniority

I went through this is 2022. I felt like it was partially personal on my manager part. This is what I did: He needed me to train the others on my team to take over the work I was doing. I said all I ask is that you give me a good internal review so I can stay with the company and I will make sure everything gets transferred. The other thing I did was apply for anything you are even partially qualified for. I did a ton of interviews and was lucky I ended up in a much better area. It su-ks and looking for a new position is like a job. The training classes they give you aren’t useful and have out of date advise. I have been at Humana a long time and internal postings are a cr-p shoot a lot of times they know who they want all ready so apply for as many as you can is my best advice.

Lotta people in the thread that really don’t like working for Humana continue to try to find jobs at Humana. It’s almost like yall complain to complain. We have it real good compared to most other companies in the country, especially in this industry.

“ We also seek referrals from your previous and current managers”

Bingo.
Most associates don’t understand this and if a manager has it in for you, there’s no chance you will get selected.
A bad manager do not only sc--w your current role but any chance of getting another role with the company.

I’ve been with the company for 8+ years and I’ve had a total of about 5 promotions. Ive dedicated time and have learned different departments to gain different knowledge that can help me advance.As leaders & hiring managers, we seek the best candidate for the position. Internal candidates can bring lots of knowledge and experience. But that doesn’t go for everyone. We also seek referrals from your previous and current managers. So if your an associate with poor performance or your history of evaluations hasn’t been the best and there are better candidates, unfortunately, you will not be the selected hire.

It’s not personal. It’s the work you put into it and your dedication to your current role that can shine. Sadly, RIF is happening and I’m included in there. Let’s see what happens. When one door closes another opens. Whether it’s with Humana or another company.

The baggage is not experience!
The baggage is left over anger from their previous groups, inability to work with others they deemed to have blocked their promotions and all kinds of nonsensical personal grudges from their past dealings.

"Sometimes (most of the time) experience is can actually hinder you"

Talk about a "lotta" ignorance. Employers actually pay a premium for experience.

Post ID: @5qmr+1rqNiO8M- yep some of plus with years of experience aren’t in RIF situations but are too valuable so we are blocked from moving. We’re stuck and not compensated for good work. It absolutely s($&s!

Well if you were RIF’d they don’t need your position and you were not essential to day to day work for your team. Sure you may have provided some extra work / perspective you were chosen for a reason.

And if you aren’t going to the same job, then you will still be trained just like any other old UHC employee that got the job over you too that obviously will provide a new perspective/ more drive.

Lotta arrogance in these comments and they wonder why they got RIF’d instead of someone else demanding they get the job just because of x amount of years at Humana. Sometimes (most of the time) experience is can actually hinder you if you aren’t keeping up with the times / get too comfortable. Just saying!

“ You might not like agree or consent but there is always a reason

THIS!

And let’s be honest, after 10+ years, we do bring a lot of baggage as others have pointed out."

Ok Grandma is the baggage in the room with us right now?? It is actually called EXPERIENCE and companies pay thousands to train associates.

WTF ARE THESE STATEMENTS? Smells like low education VPs trolling vunerable assassociates.

I worked closely with another department. When a job opened up in that department, I applied. Wasn’t selected. The VP point blank told me they really wanted to hire me after all the help I’d provided to them over the years, but the assistance I provided in my current job was too valuable to them to lose. Well guess what? There was some reorg in my current department, I was given new tasks, new to our dept for me to build from scratch, while someone else would maintain the previous work I’d built up. They did a really cr-ppy job & the VP complained they wanted me back in the previous role, they really needed that assistance I had provided. Didn’t happen & they were sc--wed. This wasn’t a RIF situation, and I still couldn’t move departments. 🤷‍♀️

“ You might not like agree or consent but there is always a reason”

THIS!

And let’s be honest, after 10+ years, we do bring a lot of baggage as others have pointed out.

Unless an whole department is being closed, those who are redundant have been SELECTED for a REASON. You might not like agree or consent but there is always a reason.

"As a financial guy"

That is the hardest I've laughed all night. What a crock of sh!t.

I hope those saying that internal transfers are “expensive “, “come with baggage” and are “disasters” and “incompetent “ don’t ever find themselves RIFed or performing so well they’re at the top of the pay scale without raises because guess what? You might just find yourself in the same boat many of us are in and be wailing!

I hope this thread is a joke. Have you ever worked with an internal transfer with 5+ years experience?
They are usually more expensive and almost always come with baggage. Why should we hire and train when we can hire direct with the skills we need?

This thread makes no sense from my view as a financial guy.

“ give priority to RIFed associate”

Thank goodness. We have FOUR internal transfers and it is a disaster.
Incompetence doesn’t even describe their abilities yet they feel so entitled.

I found it very hard to get an internal transfer. Applied for 3 years and many interviews and finally got another role. Don’t stop applying, however frustrating it may be.

Yes. I’ve found it has been increasingly hard to move internally with this company so I no longer apply.

TBH if you’re not moving to a very very similar role being an internal candidate is probably not that big of an advantage as you’re going to have to learn the new job as anyone else would.

Yes, been at Humana over ten years, in my role three years and over the past 15 months I’ve applied for over 25 roles. Have shadowed, stretch projects and even helped the teams I’m applying for with problems. Have had six or seven interviews but no offers. I wouldn’t hold out for a role at Humana if you’ve been RIFed since they won’t give you preference, especially if you’re over 50.