Thread regarding Enbridge Inc. layoffs

Bye Bye WFH

Greg has been wanting to get rid of work from
home since taking over. Now it appears he has succeeded for the most part. An email should be coming out announcing the end of Wednesdays….the reason Next 75 for course. Expect it sometime next week. Once again employees are viewed as “lazy and useless”.

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Post ID: @OP+1umliOe9

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Female patriarchy would be the matriarchy…

Maybe you should educate yourself before you volunteer to speak so freely. And as far as not using the word “woke” I’ll reference my buddy Bill Shakespeare, a rose is still a rose by any other name.

So you can call it what you want but you’re woke. But I guess that’s what liberals are good at, changing words and gaslighting people.

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Post ID: @Ajxl+1umliOe9

Female patriarchy is real.

Females have started to adopt some of the bad behaviors associated with males, so my use of the term is valid.

The term woke is id--tic and only used by right wing zealots. Please stop using it, as all it does further increase divides among people.

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Post ID: @Aoce+1umliOe9

@ tcay+1umliOe9, are you just saying random words that sound woke to elicit a response? I mean you said “female patriarchy” for god sakes.

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Post ID: @tofb+1umliOe9

Guess we'll continue to work according the white male/female patriarchy, i suspect this is because the execs want their wives / husbands back in the kitchen and child rearing for them.

Heaven forbid any one aside from a white privileged male/female in an office suit should set the guidelines for the masses.

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Post ID: @tcay+1umliOe9

There will be silent exceptions for very specific people. Those will be the select few that are really top performers and who dig in their heels. But those very few people are clearly top tier. They know it, their boss knows it, and probably several people in the chain above know it. People like that have tons of options if they choose to leave, and all of the leverage.

But if you think you might be one of them, really reflect on that externalized worth. Testing it isn't without risk.

I had to write a four page brief on why one such person should be permitted an exception to policy, and then meet with three levels of leadership to defend it. It worked. My demand of the employee was, "Just be quiet."

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Post ID: @qmsv+1umliOe9

I know of someone who is on STD who thought they could take advantage of the situation by getting a doctors note that stated they could come back to work as long as there was an accommodation that allowed them to work from home 5 days a week.
The company came back and said that if they need to work from home 5 days a week then they have not recovered yet and must remain on STD/LTD until they can come back to the office.

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Post ID: @fdhl+1umliOe9

I know of a doctor’s note attempt that was denied. Person was let go in the last round.

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Post ID: @dmpn+1umliOe9

@dbyw+1umliOe9

Any reason approved by senior management. Given that be doctors notes, mandatory relocation of families, disability reason, ect…

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Post ID: @dglh+1umliOe9

@5itz+1umliOe9
What reasons do you consider legitimate?

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Post ID: @dbyw+1umliOe9

Start the stampede in Houston!

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Post ID: @6uld+1umliOe9

We are not done, they are watching preformances and attendances.. going to 2025 next lay offs will be on these two.

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Post ID: @6exq+1umliOe9

The CEO of such a big corporation needs to get involved to hold abusers accountable? Really? 😵
Sounds like something the "leaders" below him should be handling. What's the problem?

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Post ID: @6oer+1umliOe9

If an employee is supposed to be working in the office Mondays Tuesdays and Thursdays, set up the network access in a way so that the employee cannot get in via VPN and only at an Enbridge site. Exveptions to be approved by the VP on a daily case by case basis.

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Post ID: @6nlw+1umliOe9

The big ebel-mail came out today and clarified this rumour.
It sounds like they want to make sure they know where everyone is on Mondays , Tuesdays and Thursdays for the next round in Q1 2025. It's easier to walk folks out when you know where they are.
I think many of the targets in the next round will be the employees who abused the priviledge, regardless of either their managers apathy or approval. The email today probably would not have even been necessary if it wasn't for them.

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Post ID: @6fhk+1umliOe9

@5pfs+1umliOe9
Accountability at Enbridge? 🤣
If this is true it sounds like an admission of a lack of accountability for quite some time now.

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Post ID: @6nfu+1umliOe9

@5bev+1umliOe9 there will be accountability. Leaders are accountable to ensure their teams will be in the office on the scheduled days (Mon, Tues, Thurs). Currently, there are many employees not coming in at all, making an appearance for 1 hour and leaving, only going in one day a week, etc. Now, there will only be the odd exception, approved by a VP.

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Post ID: @5pfs+1umliOe9

Does anyone, or does anyone know of someone who works fully remote for a legitimate reason, that is approved?

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Post ID: @5itz+1umliOe9

Sadly, the people not coming in or putting in hours now will just continue those behaviors if there is no accountability. I’ve already heard people leaders saying they know their people get their work done so they let them do whatever and will continue to do so. If you think you have an ‘agreement’ with your PL just know that is not a thing. Only VPs can approve deviations.

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Post ID: @5bev+1umliOe9

It’s also no longer going to allow flex hours during the day. You are unable to split your workday should you have a need such as drop off or pick up your kids and then work that time before or after. You must work 8 consecutive hours straight during the core hours. Work life balance is being stripped away and trust pulled away from employees to manage their time and workloads.

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Post ID: @5rvv+1umliOe9

So it is a choice WFH or AWA for office workers. And it sounds like they will continue to monitor but add some enforcement, too.

Greg would have completely removed both options but there were too many comments in the spring survey to ignore (more than the ones praising face-to-face). The main reason he didn’t is because there are leaders who advocated for keeping these policies. They realize that too much of a change would cause more morale problems in the long run.

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Post ID: @5ftb+1umliOe9

Well that was a whole lot of nothing

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Post ID: @5jxw+1umliOe9

The fact that the wfh w/t stays is proof that there’s a lot of bs and speculation on here. Don’t believe everything you read. Thanks to Greg for keeping a policy that is valued by the workforce, it’s up to employees to honor the social contract in return. This is a policy that helps recruit great people to Enbridge.

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Post ID: @5zzc+1umliOe9

Seems to want to get rid of anyone who gives a sh*t about their family. Covid taught everyone there is a better way. We could have learned this from other developed countries as well. Instead, we will take after the US and go completely backwards. Adios.

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Post ID: @5rhv+1umliOe9

It’s true - email came out to leaders Sept 10…one or the other..

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Post ID: @5bpj+1umliOe9

I didn't get paid more to drive into the office pre-covid so why would I get paid less for not driving in post-covid. The logic makes no sense. I get paid for what I bring to the table, not for driving

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Post ID: @5rdk+1umliOe9

Sr Management is lazy, useless and severely overpaid.

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Post ID: @5bze+1umliOe9

Let’s be honest. Real reason most people (including me) like to work at home is the savings we get by not driving in or using some form of transportation costs to get there. I do believe the day is coming where there will be two different compensation levels. WFH and WFO. Of course paid less to WFH. I would if I owned a business. Just being honest.

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Post ID: @5adh+1umliOe9

All the groups in our office go in on Mon, Tues, Thurs. The only group who doesn't come in more than 1x every week or two is HR. Go figure.

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Post ID: @4ywc+1umliOe9

100% agree with the comment before mine. We use to have really good well respected leaders. Now we have way too many smooth talkers who don't know anything about the work they manage.

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Post ID: @3dsx+1umliOe9

If this is true (which I doubt), it's our incredibly weak leadership that need to be fired. People don't follow the rules and ruin it for everyone else because supervisors to VP's knowingly let it happen and some cases say it's okay (until they get caught) because they lead up only, avoid confrontation and want to be popular rather than lead. Then finally ELT figures it out and gets mad then the whole leadership top to bottom panics, does a 180 and overreacts with knee-jerk reactions further reinforcing they're weak leaders and hypocrites and further destroying their credibility. This cycle has been happening for years. I blame upper management -- their criteria for hiring leaders doesn't include actually knowing anything about the work and no, looking sharp, talking fast and being smart doesn't mean you can lead or add value to groups you know nothing about.

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Post ID: @3mxi+1umliOe9

I do more work or more productive when I am home.

Reason less side chatter, small talk or helping other people do their work or solve their problems

Also in the office our director / Manager frowns against sitting in ur desk. U have to move around and talk to people. How am suppose get stuff done. My most productive days are Wednesday and Friday. Monday and Tuesday Thursday are for doing the work that I can get done in my sleep

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Post ID: @3umv+1umliOe9

I don’t believe this rumour. This was already addressed earlier this year at the All Company forum. If anything should be cancelled are AWAs, because most people are NOT putting in the hours to be off every other Friday. That’s the real scam! Can’t get anything done because half my team is off every other Friday!

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Post ID: @3iox+1umliOe9

Don't believe this statement: "Let's get the economy moving forward"

Productivity problems in Canada have nothing to do with companies WFH strategy. It has do with wealth concentration and shareholder first mentality and oligopolies within Canada.

Productivity problems are because companies are laying off employees to save dividends, and not re-investing capital to create new products, or innovation in industries. TELL ME ONE THING THAT ENBRIDGE HAS INNOVATED IN THE LAST 6 YEARS. They have not invested in their product, tried to make it competitive, nor re-invested capital - they just blame regulators on slowing them down versus trying to navigate a changinging industry

The economy is not moving because of CEO's, and shareholders wanting more and more ....

There is zero Correlation between productivity and where you work. CEO's don't work from the office most days, nor VP's

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Post ID: @2icw+1umliOe9

I find the office less productive.

too many people chattering/talking, dropping by desks, phones ringing, endless drop-ins ... not to mention the pressure to be social and attend all these inane meetings.

all office spaces now are open concept with no privacy ... it's like the 1950's with rows of desks lined up like school children in front of managers.

Are they going to stop outsourcing, and contracting out work? For some - their department is non-existent, so why does office time matter when all the people you work with are external contractors, your next closest peer on your team is 100 to 1000's of miles away from you. In some cases, like TIS - everything is offshore in India. I don't even think TIS has employees anymore, aside from management.

interesting if this is true.

full disclosure - I do not follow the 'rules' I go to office mon/tues and work from home rest of the week. I have received great performance ratings this year.

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Post ID: @2ksw+1umliOe9

About time, WFH should not be an option unless you have an appt, emergency/family related matters. Let's get the economy moving forward.

It is nice to leave home and get back into a routine

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Post ID: @2ibm+1umliOe9

GDS Ontario will have lots of people looking more than ever to leave

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Post ID: @2lnl+1umliOe9

Instead of work from home, once you get laid off you get to stay at home!

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Post ID: @2pwi+1umliOe9

To OP - please state your source on this (without revealing yourself of course...). Through various communications I've seen and people I've spoken with who seem to be in the know, this isn't happening.

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Post ID: @2hcr+1umliOe9

When I started working, the boss or manager always seemed to know who wasn't working. In the office goofing off vs at home focused on some challenging tasks. You'd think that would be a measurable output that someone could manage against. Perhaps counting people passing through the door in the morning is just easier.

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Post ID: @1rxe+1umliOe9

I say leave those of us alone that do follow the company rules (going in to the office on the required 3 days). Penalize those who haven’t been following the rules and make them work the 4 days a week. And even more so enforce it for the full 8 hrs not this showing up for just an hour or two showing their face tricking the system that way as well

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