Someone here interpreted e-mail in a completely different way than I did. >> However, I can’t believe they just want to know who will be vaccinated by Oct 4th to devise different working conditions and safety measures for others.
I may be too pessimistic, but I still think that many will be shown the door, but quietly and under the radar. I wish I wasn't right.
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Q: Is the vaccine now a condition of employment in the U.S.?
A: Yes, effective December 8, 2021
Executive Order "pay to play" with Federal Government Contracts.
It seems they are now.
I heard that the vaccine will turn you into a human flesh eating zombie that is ki---d by sunlight. Oh wait, I may be confusing this with the plot from the movie "I am legend".
“In reality, we couldn't afford to fire people, our team can barely find applicants, any applicants for the positions we've had listed for 6-8 months.”
Who wants to work for a company that has clueless management and may offshore your job at any time? To be fair, a lot of oil-related companies fall into this category too. There are too many better offers right now which is the reason many are jumping off of the HPE Titanic.
"70,000 front line nurses lost their jobs after refusing the jab. What do they know? "
That if you refuse the vaccine you get fired. Yep, they learned a lot from that and rumors are most are getting vaccinated in droves.
Nurses like doctors aren't geniuses by default.
Are they really conditioning employment with a vaccine?
No, no they're not. They're strongly suggesting people get vaccinated, to keep that sweet sweet federal money rolling in. In reality, we couldn't afford to fire people, our team can barely find applicants, any applicants for the positions we've had listed for 6-8 months now.
"I've posted facts about the 3 dr-g companies and issues with the vax, but my comments keep getting deleted. Watch Project Veritas! Do your research."
Go back to facebook and read your misinformed memes. This isn't the place buster.
I've posted facts about the 3 dr-g companies and issues with the vax, but my comments keep getting deleted. Watch Project Veritas! Do your research.
70,000 front line nurses lost their jobs after refusing the jab. What do they know?
Ivermectin - $1.80 for 5 day treatment. Cured India. Remdesivir - $3800 for 5 day course. Cured few, but hey: "Science!" Whatever you do, protect vaccinated from unvaccinated. C'mon, man.
Michigan Couple Dies Of COVID Within Minutes Of Each Other Despite Being Fully Vaccinated
https://www.fox17online.com/news/coronavirus/grand-rapids-couple-dies-1-minute-apart-from-covid-19
Ah racism herring is finally in. Sexism can't be far behind. And the climate change. But have no fear - they will have jabs for that too.
Good to see racism and lunacy is still alive in well at HPE.
"This needs to be added to the list. Requirements to become an HPE employee:
Must NOT be a white male
MUST BE VACCINATED!"
I see the HPE HR department is posting here again.
This needs to be added to the list. Requirements to become an HPE employee:
- Must NOT be a white male
- MUST BE VACCINATED!
Fellow unvaxxed: figure out how to collect disability. Hone those acting skills. Become a drain on the system until it collapses.
Antonio's Greek letter alligns with the variant du jure.
The efficacy of the vaccines are low and getting lower with every variant. Antonio's is only playing ball because he needs to keep the Fed Contracts, not because it makes sense. Also for all the people not paying attention, what the White House says is not really in alignment with the CDC or FDA.
Also EEO rules apply in US for companies that want to do business with the Feds.
What is Equal Employment Opportunity?
Equal Employment Opportunity is a principle that asserts that all people should have the right to work and advance on the bases of merit and ability, regardless of their race, s-x, color, religion, disability, national origin, or age.
Texas will sue and win if Antonio starts firing people ion Texas, HPE head quarters.
The Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel says life will return to normal “in a year,” but that this will be dependent on people continuing to receive regular COVID-19 booster jabs.
This is a political and ideological requirement. Logic or "science" was never the part of the decision making process. This is akin the Na-i's "papers please" mantra. It was considered heroic back in the day to arrange "the papers" to cross into Switzerland.
But it is a requirement. You can want it to be different but your control of the "conditions of employment" are very limited and pretty much down to "I quit."
Go ahead. Fight for your rights.
If the Mu variant is the dominant variant and the CDC already came out and said the vaccine does not prevent against this variant, then why are we still telling people to get the vaccine from December 2020 when it doesn't work on this variant?
And for the record, I am not against anyone taking the vaccine, I actually encourage it for people who have a bunch of health issues or old, the ones most up susceptible, but what I'm trying to say is, this should not be a requirement for your employment, 80% of people who catch covid have no symptoms at all or mild symptoms. I wont even go into details of people I know personally, who took the shot and got very sick, heart problems and are still having issues now, but I respect their choice that they took it though.
That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. What if no one gets the vaccine? Who then would be responsible for protecting others from COVID in that scenario?
Also no, the flu has shown be a far smaller threat compared to COVID in 2020/2021 so far according to many health sources. You can’t compare the volume of impact of COVID to the flu. So it wouldn’t make sense to mandate a vaccine requirement for the flu.
Regarding your unknown acquaintances that you seem to disagree on about getting a vaccine (and you probably didn’t say “In your face, I told you so” to them), yeah, it’s known that particularly the Mu variant is pretty resistant to the vaccine. What’s your point? No one said that this vaccine is a silver bullet and no one can expect the mutations that occur. Frankly I’m surprised that the biotech industry isn’t capable of simulating potential mutations but that’s a topic for another day. By the way, since they are in the hospital and you’ve described their condition as “COVID pneumonia”, shouldn’t that bother you? Now you’ve seen what COVID does first hand, right?
Let’s talk about risk. If you get exposed to the Mu variant, you have a 100% chance of getting it with no vaccine but say it is 60% chance of getting if you were vaccinated. Which scenario would you prefer?
It's not the unvaccinated folks jobs to protect the vaccinated, that is the vaccines job, I repeat, it's not unvaccinated people's job to protect the vaccinated people, that is the job of the vaccine, this is absolute Insanity.
So what happens in the fall, do we start telling people who haven't taken the flu shot that they're not allowed in the building as well too? When a third or even fourth booster shot comes out by next year, are all employees who just have two shots, are they now considered unvaccinated as well and can't come to a site?
What's going to happen is, you're going to have a building full of vaccinated people and you're going to have a giant covid outbreak, as this shot does not stop you from catching covid or spreading it, I personally know a few people right now in the ER who are fully vaccinated and have covid pneumonia and that is what the vaccine was supposed to prevent.
It’s sort of weird that people are changing their opinions about getting vaccinated. Here’s how people evolved their opinion about not getting vaccinated.
1) First they wanted to see if it’s safe…. For the majority of people, it is safe. The risk of major health problems with the vaccine is much lower than the risk of major health problems with COVID.
2) Then people were skeptical about the type of biotechnology since it is new…. Fair argument, it is new and there’s been a lot of research for this type of biotechnology, even well before COVID so it’s not like they started from absolutely nothing last year when developing the vaccine.
3) Then people wanted for the vaccines approved by the FDA and just approved for emergency use…. Well, it was recently approved for Pfizer and I believe Moderna is about theirs approved.
4) Now people are skeptical about people who have the vaccine have a higher chance of getting the Delta/Mu variant than those who aren’t vaccinated…. I couldn’t find a reliable source for this information but it’s ironic that people who don’t want to get vaccinated are suddenly worried about the infectious behavior of the virus.
But to conclude, people who refuse to get vaccinated are really putting the general public at risk. Your right to refuse to be vaccinated should NOT supersede someone else’s right to be healthy and live. The vaccine isn’t perfect nor is it a cure, which why we must be considerate. Being vaccinated greatly reduces the risk of harming other people. Sure, there’s a very low death rate with COVID but it can affect people long term with permanent damage to their body.
People who refuse to get vaccinated are only thinking about themselves. This is a prime example of how selfish our society is. It’s astonishing how little people care about others nowadays.
Ultimately, yes, it is your choice to get vaccinated. But consider other people for just one second. The amount of COVID cases were really going down a lot when these vaccines were first going around…. Then the rate of people getting vaccinated started to plateau and that’s when we started to see another wave coming. If you’re tired of hearing about COVID then do your part to prevent it from happening. If you refuse to get vaccinated then at least do your best to not get other people sick. Don’t be all “I don’t care about other people”.
Because they want you to submit so they Build Back Better. Why it is so difficult to grasp?
Who are you talking to? Twice.
Explain to me why anyone who works from home and has already had covid needs to be Vaxxed???
The pharmaceutical companies that make it, thw government thatnis trying to mandate it, and your employer thats forcing it on you, ALL take ZERO liability if you get a serve reaction from this shot or if does even worse.
- Because you can get it again, and you know, die?
Based on your numerous typos, I'm assuming you were drunk when you posted this. Either way, a d-mb comment and a terrible look. Get the vaccine.
Explain to me why anyone who works from home and has already had covid needs to be Vaxxed???
The pharmaceutical companies that make it, thw government thatnis trying to mandate it, and your employer thats forcing it on you, ALL take ZERO liability if you get a serve reaction from this shot or if does even worse.
On site or not, HPE is saying get vaccinated or find another job. There might be an interim period of accommodation but it will be short lived.
These are the conditions of employment -if you don't agree, go elsewhere ... and this is exactly what the anti-vaxer employees are saying - I don't want to be vaccinated and if you don't like it I will quit. Looks like neither side can agree on the conditions of employment.
Enjoy your "freedom". It isn't helping anyone let alone getting our children and grandchildren out of masks. As adults most of us can handle it but apparently some of you can't.
Work from home. Or look for a company with this remote option.
Thought this only applys to those that have to come to the site. If you are remote, I'm not if it matters.
Employees who are not granted an accommodation and do not confirm that they have been fully vaccinated will have their *-issued badge deactivated, be prohibited from attending any external in-person events, and not allowed to visit with customers or partners. This could impact their ability to perform their responsibilities, and ultimately lead to a difficult decision impacting the employee’s ability to remain in their role or even with *.
Keep in mind, the email mentioned came out BEFORE Biden's announcement that companies over 100 employees need to have their employees vaccinated OR tested weekly at the companies expense . (Otherwise face $14k fines/offense) People might leave if they are forced to be vaccinated - or could be asked to leave - since weekly testing could get costly for HPE. Either way, buckle up.