Thread regarding Capital One layoffs

Found this PIP article interesting…

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/daniel-goodman2001_if-youre-on-a-pip-you-likely-cant-transfer-activity-7216589618215854080-qsQ2?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios

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@ceww+1tr0DgVe

These reviews are accurate don't come to c1 it will destroy your health.

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Post ID: @datd+1tr0DgVe

I came to this board, as I've been eyeing Cap1, given that I have some background in M & A integration and I'm presently in the financial services space. On the topic of of PIPs, your best bet is to get out in front of this early, before you are unable to transfer. Most folks begin to work harder, try to change current perceptions, etc. In my case, when I recognized the relationship between myself and manager not making an inch of improvement, I started to work my network. There were enough people who knew me from my prior roles at the company, and were willing to help. So, while the manager was incrementally papering me, my network(ing) was working. I continued to perform my tasks in the role, but stopped fighting back every time the manager wanted to argue with me. I think the term for this is compartmentalizing. When the new role unofficially came through (not directly in the company's HR system), the manager was caught off guard and initially tried to fight it, but things were already in motion. I guess it was a version of win first and then fight.

Moral of the story: Don't want to be PIP'ed. Or as someone posted earlier: "Don’t be played, play them."

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Post ID: @ceww+1tr0DgVe

If you are presented with a coaching plan or PIP and were not expecting it and you realize that you've been targeted and you can tell because it feels like you've lost your mind. Simply walk away and let your instincts and reasoning kick in, so you can fully understand if you're being gaslighted.

If you know its false. Never sign it. Signing it does not mean you simply received it, legally it means you've signed it because what was documented is largely true.

At that time you tell them you won't sign it and if they threaten to fire you, then let them know you want money in the form of a severance, and negotiate a severance, haggle.

See these links and bookmark and save them. Never sign a PIP instead ask to be terminated with severance.

https://www.justanswer.com/employment-law/ltfz6-employer-gave-performance-improvement-plan-pip.html

https://eggcellentwork.com/never-sign-a-pip/

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@4ctk+1tr0DgVe

Once you've been targeted it's hard to shake the cooties off. You did the right thing by replying to your review in Workday that you disagreed with it.

Your manager should have given you the option to go through with the PIP or be terminated immediately with severance. They've gotten cheap and will now only give 12 weeks of severance for PIPd employees. So you should of told them you're not signing the PIP and ask them to give you as much severance as possible, including paying for your COBRA.

NEVER SIGN A PIP !!!! ALWAYS DEMAND A CASH SEVERANCE.

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Post ID: @bkjz+1tr0DgVe

Thus is happening to me right now. My manager plaed me below strong on midyear review. He is papering me. He has me sitting next to someone that watches and tells him everything thing I do all day. It is very stressful. I'm under a microscope. This is not being done with my 11 other
teammates. I did give a brief statement in Workday that stated I did not agree with in recept only the rating. I need advice here please. I've been w/C1 6 years and in this dept a tear in June

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Post ID: @4ctk+1tr0DgVe

Here is the article

View profile for Dan Goodman, graphic
Dan Goodman
🥊Employee Advocate 🔄 Counter to Human Resources 💰 Commission Finder 🔎 Founder/CEO 🔥 Entrepreneur🏌♂️ 🏖. I consult on severance, PIPs, employment matters and more.

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If you’re on a PIP, you likely can’t transfer to another team or department.

This is an internal rule in many organizations. It gives the manager who has it in for an employee and an incredible amount of power over them. As a result, some bad managers can really do a lot harm.

I have heard countless stories of managers working with their HR business partner to craft false narratives to manage targeted employees out of the business.

Maybe the manager has it in for the employee for all kinds of wrong reasons.
❌ New manager, 1st time manager, former peer now manager
❌ Threatened by your tenure, knowledge, confidence, likeability
❌ Not sure what to do, micromanages, lacks confidence
❌ Employee is more well-liked and respected by leadership
❌ Manager plays favorites, wants to bring in own guys

In some instances, a manager will retaliate against an employee, using their power to block them from transferring to another role and working to manage them out of the business.

The false PIP can be used as a we-pon to achieve it. Both blocking the employee and setting them up for an often-unjust termination.

If this is happening to you or sense that it is about to, throw a wrench into your manager’s plans. Gather the evidence to offset their false narrative and the facts to support your truth. Show that you did not deserve to be put on a PIP. That you are being targeted.

Break free from your manager and HR business partner and go a few layers above or to the head of HR depending on the size of the organization.

Call out the scheme and negotiate your desired outcome. Don’t suffer in an untenable situation that is intentionally being created to drive you out of the company. Don’t be played, play them.

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