Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

25% employees to get laid off or fired

https://www.pionline.com/money-management/wells-fargo-targeting-25-workforce-mass-layoffs

Wells Fargo & Co. is planning severe job cuts that could ultimately impact up to 20% to 25% of its workforce, or around 50,000 to 66,000 jobs, according to sources.

Amid rumblings of mass layoffs during a pandemic, the company said Aug. 31 it has not set targets for a total number of job cuts, though a multiyear cost-cutting effort is already underway at the firm. According to a recruitment and compensation expert, the news of job cuts, combined with the bank's prolonged battle with reputational issues and scandals, will likely make it harder for the firm's asset management unit to recruit talent and attract new clients.

San Francisco-based Wells Fargo began notifying employees in August in a first round of layoffs, and will be "winding down their roles in October," with additional rounds of cuts to continue through 2021, an anonymous source with knowledge on the matter told Pensions & Investments. Anywhere from 25,000 to 50,000 jobs are being targeted in the workforce reduction plans, and pending cuts are expected to impact all areas of the business including Wells Fargo Asset Management, the source said.

Another source who spoke under the condition of anonymity said Wells Fargo was targeting a workforce reduction of up to 25% of staff, or around 66,000 employees.

The source said the firm might achieve a significant proportion of the reductions by cutting and downsizing branches and leaning more heavily on telephone and web services. The expectation in the asset management unit, however, is that cuts will not be as deep as in some business lines.

Wells Fargo Asset Management "will continue its push to automate back office, freeze hiring, including replacements, with exceptions for critical roles, but will not be cut back hard," the source said.

Wells Fargo had around 266,000 employees total as of June 30, including about 1,450 employees at Wells Fargo Asset Management, the firm's website shows. At the time, Wells Fargo Asset Management had $578 billion in assets under management. Wells Fargo reported $17.8 billion in revenue in the second quarter, including $3.7 billion in revenue from its wealth and investment management business line.

When questioned about the depth of cuts at the firm, a Wells Fargo spokeswoman said on Aug. 31 that the company has "not set targets for a total number of job displacements."

That same day, Wells Fargo Asset Management provided a statement that said: "Each business line and function is conducting comprehensive analyses to identify duplication, low-value activity, manual processes, and other opportunities to improve how we operate. We can expect impacts, including job reductions, in most geographies across our footprint and nearly all of our business lines and functions."

On Aug. 18, Wells Fargo first confirmed with Pensions & Investments that it was at the beginning of a multiyear cost-cutting effort that would include workforce reductions.

This followed Wells Fargo CEO and President Charles W. Scharf's comments in a July earnings call about the need for expense cuts at the bank.

Mr. Scharf told analysts in the July 14 earnings call that, for the company "to bring our level of efficiency close to our peers, the math would tell you we need to eliminate over $10 billion of expenses."

If Wells Fargo's layoffs reach the high end of sources' estimates, the impact could match or exceed the significant overhaul announced at Deutsche Bank in July 2019, which entailed the firm cutting its workforce by a fifth, or 18,000 jobs. DWS Group GmbH & Co. KGaA, the money management unit of Deutsche Bank, was spared in the restructuring plan, however, P&I reported at the time.

Alan Johnson, managing director of New York-based compensation consultant Johnson Associates Inc., said that Wells Fargo's announced cost-cutting plan will hurt the firm from a recruitment perspective, including in asset management.

"It's not just the cost cutting, but years of instability at the bank," since the 2016 sales scandal surfaced, he said. "It's just one negative story after another. … (There's) just a general malaise from bad news and instability," Mr. Johnson added, noting that it could negatively impact Wells' ability to attract new asset management clients.

In October 2019, Mr. Scharf became the third CEO in three years to take the reins at the troubled firm.

An asset management employee at Wells Fargo, who spoke to P&I under the condition of anonymity, said that cost cutting may be "the right thing to do," particularly in areas like fundamental equity research, which will not require as much staff in the future.

"I think the company is going in the right direction," the source said of the expense-cutting plan. The source was not aware of the extent of the firmwide layoffs.

"You can see there's no need to keep so many people to do the old fundamental (equity) research," particularly as the asset management unit has made strategic investments into big data and computer-driven analysis, the source said.

On Thursday, Wells Fargo Asset Management said in a statement that the unit “has no plans to make cuts in its equity research functions.”

Two institutional investor clients of Wells Fargo Asset Management have said that their mandates are not on watch as a result of Wells Fargo's announced cost-cutting plans.

Ashbel C. Williams, executive director and CIO of the Florida State Board of Administration, Tallahassee, which oversees a total of $216.9 billion, said that the board had not taken any action regarding its mandate with Wells Capital Management Inc., a Wells Fargo Asset Management boutique.

Wells Capital manages around $991 million in an emerging markets equity mandate for the SBA, Mr. Williams confirmed.

"Obviously, Wells Fargo broadly has had issues that are very well known. I think we are generally aware of what's what," Mr. Williams said, noting that issues have been "related to governance," which has impacted revenues and resulted in cost cutting.

He noted the board has a good relationship with Wells Capital Management.

In February 2018, the Federal Reserve placed a growth restriction on Wells Fargo in light of the retail banking cross-selling scandal, prohibiting the bank from growing beyond $1.95 trillion in assets. In April, however, as result of the coronavirus, the Fed announced it would temporarily lift the asset cap so that Wells Fargo could provide additional support to small businesses through the Paycheck Protection Program.

Wells has remained in the crosshairs of financial regulators, however. On Sept. 2, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority announced that Wells Fargo Clearing Services LLC and Wells Fargo Advisors Financial Network LLC agreed to pay more than $1.4 million in restitution plus interest to approximately 100 customers and fines totaling $675,000 for failing to supervise recommendations that customers switch from variable annuities to investment company products, a news release said.

The $20.1 billion Kentucky Teachers' Retirement System, Frankfort, has around $500 million in core fixed-income assets managed by Galliard Capital Management Inc., another Wells Fargo Asset Management boutique.

Beau Barnes, general counsel and deputy executive secretary of operations for the fund, said the pension fund is aware of the cost-cutting program and layoffs at Wells Fargo, but that Galliard has had "solid, consistent performance" as a manager and is not on a watchlist.

"From what we're aware of, there have not been any announcements about specific changes to staff at Galliard," Mr. Barnes said, noting that the pension fund will "wait and see what happens," and is "constantly monitoring our managers."

Mr. Barnes added that Galliard is obligated by contract to notify Kentucky Teachers of any material changes, such as senior staff leaving, that would affect the pension fund's account.

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Post ID: @OP+16ORhgWc

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And yet the lying scandal ridden Fredo Daley still cashed checks and adds no value.

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Post ID: @d1qjf+16ORhgWc

The more woke this company gets, the worse it gets. Token hires do not generate profit. Competent hires do.

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Post ID: @cQqrt+16ORhgWc

“plans are in the works to revamp the work culture, make it more dynamic like the google culture with nap pods, safe spaces, and slides. There’s also the drive for more diversity and inclusion, this will all make Wells a new enterprise and customers will realize it’s a new WF.”

Wow, that will be awesome. I hope all this happens. That's what Wells needs, more people, new people that can think out of the box and really drive this company forward. The right working conditions are crucial, so I'm all for doing things like the google style. It's time to get out of this stuffy traditional boring shell of a bank. I want to work with diverse people. I mean, I would love to work with somebody that has transitioned, for example, and get a bigger perspective on life that way. I really hope this happens.

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Post ID: @4xid+16ORhgWc

from @3ngz+16ORhgWc: “Don't believe in those facts?”

I believe in controlled facts, facts put into perspective, not facts mangled through sensationalism. No way, no way I'm going to think like that.

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Post ID: @4iei+16ORhgWc

“The new Wells will have a deeper progressive culture, my manager has explained it all to me. This new Wells will have so much talent, creative thinkers that the Bay Area is known for.”

Excellent. That's the spirit! We need more positivity. Too much doom and gloom. No way I'm doing that. I still believe in Wells, I believe Wells will do just fine from all this reorg. I believe because no way I'm throwing away 20 years of hard work here. No way I'm doing that. I got so many years invested in Wells so I want the company to succeed.

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Post ID: @4edl+16ORhgWc

Responding to @3ata+16ORhgWc, who said: “you are delusional and so full of yourself. You work at WF, so therefore, you are not an innovator. Sure, you think you are better, because you live in a dirty, homeless-invested city that is overcrowded with no infrastructure to support it, but maybe you were used to something much worse prior to being in the "Bay Area".

First off, I'm a Bay Area native. Second, you completely misread everything I said, so your cognitive skills are impaired. I'm talking about the new Wells, getting built from this old Wells. The new Wells will have a deeper progressive culture, my manager has explained it all to me. This new Wells will have so much talent, creative thinkers that the Bay Area is known for. That's what I'm talking about. Everybody wants to move to the Bay Area, California in general. This place attracts the top talent. Then factor in the cool progressive culture and you got the ideal place. Won't surprise me if the CIC campus gets shut down and the SF HQ gets heightened, becoming even more prominent. This is the center of innovation and Wells is following that path.

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Post ID: @4gsn+16ORhgWc

@3imw Have you not noticed that all the new execs are in NYC; they even moved Mandy there recently. This bank is effectively headquartered in Westchester County, NY. They are renting space in Westchester near where they all live. What execs are left in San Fran?

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Post ID: @4uhc+16ORhgWc

@4oyx+16ORhgWc

That is the truth - I’m sure there are many people from Iowa and Arizona that are good at their jobs but there is a reason why all the best banks are headquartered out of NY.

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Post ID: @4hrr+16ORhgWc

The Bay Area does attract top talent, but they don’t come to work at Wells Fargo. People who are serious about tech careers come to work at Google, Facebook, Apple, Twitter, and the like. Or they go for start-up gold.

People serious about careers in finance want to be in New York.

Wells can’t compete. And it shows.

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Post ID: @4oyx+16ORhgWc

@3xyq+16ORhgWc - Don't believe in those facts?

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Post ID: @3ngz+16ORhgWc

@3cbx, you are delusional and so full of yourself. You work at WF, so therefore, you are not an innovator. Sure, you think you are better, because you live in a dirty, homeless-invested city that is overcrowded with no infrastructure to support it, but maybe you were used to something much worse prior to being in the "Bay Area".

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Post ID: @3ata+16ORhgWc

@3cbx, so absolutely true! No innovators working at WF - just branch tellers working as Engineering Managers running software development teams and faking every moment of it! Truth!

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Post ID: @3eoc+16ORhgWc

@3mix+16ORhgWc, that is exciting news. I hope we really build a diverse workforce, have more non-binary co-workers, for example, and really revamp the company with their ideas–fresh ideas–and show the world this is a new Wells Fargo.

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Post ID: @3cjk+16ORhgWc

@2zlc+16ORhgWc, thanks for explaining all that. But I don't believe in those facts. A lot of that stuff in the news is exaggerated. I'm going by gut instinct. I've been here long enough, so I know what I feel. Like my manager said, Wells is turning around for the better and that's what I'm feeling.

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Post ID: @3xyq+16ORhgWc

"I agree that the layoffs are just trimming and big companies always do that but the SF HQ won’t be touched in any big way. My manager said we’re the center of innovation here in the bay area and the driving force for the whole company. Think of us like a crack team of specialists, she said. What she heard is that plans are in the works to revamp the work culture, make it more dynamic like the google culture with nap pods, safe spaces, and slides. There’s also the drive for more diversity and inclusion, this will all make Wells a new enterprise and customers will realize it’s a new WF."

That's the spirit! We need more of that positive outlook. No way am I going to throw away 20 years of hard work by joining the flock and jump on the doom and gloom train. No way, no way I'm doing. Wells is changing for the better. Some layoffs always happen in big companies like ours. Trimming here and there, finding redundancies. But now way is Wells sinking or going bankrupt.

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Post ID: @3ewa+16ORhgWc

@2zlc+16ORhgWc - You can't wish things into reality. You've hidden in one bank for 20 years and missed everything happening around you.

Technology innovations have displaced tens of millions of workers in that time frame. Whole industries have disappeared, others completely transformed and other are brand new.

Here are the facts:

  1. They've said publicly that 20 to 25% are going by 2024.
  2. COO and CAO functions are being enhanced and they are heavily focused on streamlining processes. Both have said in town halls they can't believe the layers of management, number of meetings and number of manual processes. Frankly, they believe there is too much unnecessary work being done.
  3. Layoffs happened on 8/25
  4. New applications are in the pipeline that will eliminate many dozens of applications with it the staff that supports them and the staff that uses them. Automation is happening. Redundancy is being removed.
  5. Applications are heading to the cloud as well. Workday, Service Now, Salesforce
  6. Infrastructure will be going there next

Non-skilled labor is being worked out of this industry. You better wake the heck up and make sure you have skills that will be needed in the future.

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Post ID: @3san+16ORhgWc

@3wve+16ORhgWc: Yeah man, "nap pods, safe spaces, and slides," and more diversity/inclusion training, as you claim, are the key elements to turning this company around. All that is sure to stop the layoffs and wipe out the zero credibility of Wells (gained from all its scandals) and customers will come flocking back to us. Dude, just a friendly suggestion: someone's got to take the xxpotxx away from you.

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Post ID: @3hsq+16ORhgWc

@3cbx The Bay area might be full of innovators, but Wells Fargo isn't.

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Post ID: @3jjs+16ORhgWc

@3imw: lol, people are always jealous of us here in the Bay Area. Look, my manager said Wells is transforming into a solid progressive culture more than ever. It starts here in the SF HQ, spreading to other locations eventually, because we're innovators here, and reality is on our side.

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Post ID: @3cbx+16ORhgWc

“What I heard is that benefits are being looked at to offer full coverage on health-related treatments for those transitioning. That’s very generous of Wells, if true.”

That’s awesome. Things are really changing in positive ways. I’m glad Wells is showing the world that we are so progressive!!!

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Post ID: @3mix+16ORhgWc

@1vic, more fraud as usual. Itnever stops.

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Post ID: @3akd+16ORhgWc

@3wve, you are insane.

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Post ID: @3imw+16ORhgWc

SF-based worker here. Just chiming in on the comment about the proposed new culture. What I heard is that benefits are being looked at to offer full coverage on health-related treatments for those transitioning. That’s very generous of Wells, if true. Thing is, costs are astronomical so to compensate, it’s supposedly another reason to reduce head count.

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Post ID: @3owc+16ORhgWc

@2zlc+16ORhgWc. “Sf HQ is here to stay too. It always will. It’s the heart of Wells. SF is the best city in the world, California is the best place, everyone wants to come here. A new Wells is on the horizon, our leadership has a plan. Give them a chance.“

Well said. I agree that the layoffs are just trimming and big companies always do that but the SF HQ won’t be touched in any big way. My manager said we’re the center of innovation here in the bay area and the driving force for the whole company. Think of us like a crack team of specialists, she said. What she heard is that plans are in the works to revamp the work culture, make it more dynamic like the google culture with nap pods, safe spaces, and slides. There’s also the drive for more diversity and inclusion, this will all make Wells a new enterprise and customers will realize it’s a new WF. I’m actually excited. This will be an unbelievable transformation.

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Post ID: @3wve+16ORhgWc

@2zlc+16ORhgWc, have you been living under a rock? Both the CEO and the CFO told the media blatantly there will be mass layoffs in the tens of thousands. Why are you even on this site if you pay so little attention to everything else?

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Post ID: @3mlg+16ORhgWc

None of these layoffs will happen?

I’d feel much more at ease these days if that was the case but I already know people who have been given their notices.

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Post ID: @2rii+16ORhgWc

@2ktg+16ORhgWc, you insulted me, saying “Either you are being sarcastic or are dumb as a bag of rocks.”

You have no right, you have no right to attack me. I don’t believe massive layoffs are happening because apps are replacing people. you don’t know that. But I know Wells is here, reorganizing for the better and I’m not throwing away any hope and optimism. I invested 20 years working here, no way I’m just giving up. Sf HQ is here to stay too. It always will. It’s the heart of Wells. SF is the best city in the world, California is the best place, everyone wants to come here. A new Wells is on the horizon, our leadership has a plan. Give them a chance. No way will I be a pessimist and jump on the doom and gloom train.

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Post ID: @2zlc+16ORhgWc

Who cares anymore? Rhetorical.

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Post ID: @2rtv+16ORhgWc

@2mio+16ORhgWc

Either you are being sarcastic or are dumb as a bag of rocks.

Layoffs are happening and will continue to happen. New applications will displace people by then thousands.

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Post ID: @2ktg+16ORhgWc

None of these layoffs will happen. I don't believe it. This is the same "sky is falling" rumor. I put 20 years of dedication working at Wells. No way will I give in to this doom and gloom. No way I'm doing that. Wells is doing just fine, sure we had some bump on the roads, some trimming here and there, but no way massive layoffs will happen. No way will I surrender to that negative attitude.

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Post ID: @2mio+16ORhgWc

Diversity isn't "more important than profits" at a publicly-traded company (or any company, for that matter). Hence the "for profit" vs. "not-for-profit" distinction. What's more, the comment seems to suggest the two are mutually exclusive. In fact, studies show that more diverse organizations perform better, so good leadership can – and should – pursue both diversity and profitability. This is assuming they can walk and chew gum at the same time, which I think they can.

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Post ID: @2uiz+16ORhgWc

2ygu+16ORhgWc in addition, diversity is not the number 1 job of management unless your goal is to have a very diverse unemployment line.

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Post ID: @2wcz+16ORhgWc

2ygu+16ORhgWc. One of the most id–tic statements ever made. Before you go labeling me as a facist neo-con, I'm a actually a tree hugging Liberal and value diversity. Having said that, your advocating for prejudice. The ones that should remain are the performers that WANT to be at WF no matter whom they are or aren't. It's bias in reverse.

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Post ID: @2lvx+16ORhgWc

I hope WF is smart enough to makes the tens of thousands of great employees who are involved in social justice clubs like LGBTQ off limits to layoffs. Diversity should be job 1 for management. More important to profits or anything else.

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Post ID: @2ygu+16ORhgWc

Let's face it $10B is HUGE...layoffs will not be limited to managers, rather that's only a starting point. All jobs are at risk and the list was made along time ago. I wish the team members in the trenches had some say as to which management should get the axe.

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Post ID: @1uty+16ORhgWc

Some people are being transferred on paper to hub locations while being able to remain in their non-hub location. What’s the point?

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Post ID: @1vic+16ORhgWc

Recycled news. Was already posted. Nothing new. No need to post same story over and over

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Post ID: @1gkx+16ORhgWc

I eye-roll every time I see a leader bio pushed out for newly hired "tech evangelists".

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Post ID: @1dww+16ORhgWc

@1gtr Please do not call them leaders. They are merely executives... They have no idea how to lead.

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Post ID: @1mnx+16ORhgWc

Yet they have and continue to expand senior leadership.

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Post ID: @1gtr+16ORhgWc

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