Out team was remote pre-COVID. We are all back at work 3 days a week for 2-3 hours. There are 2 on our team that are full time remote. What are the excuses to get that. Medical? More than 40+ miles to office?
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I’m FTR and was pre-Covid. I was told to expect a layoff in Q1
You left out the final bullet point, where all domestic locations not called "Hudson Yards" are removed from the "go forward locations" list. There isn't a single other location in the US that is safe. Charlotte, Minneapolis, Tempe, Des Moines, they'll all go, and no, they won't offer relocation if you want to move to Manila or Hyderabad.
Here's how I got mine.
I told them I need to smoke up every day and needed an exception.
They said no.
I said let me talk to Chuck.
They said ok.
I told Chuck I need to smoke up every day and needed an exception.
He said only if I share the kind.
I said ok and we smoked up.
Now I'm fully remote!
Here's how it works today.
- If you are more than 40 miles from an office you can stay remote (for now, more on that later) But as has been posted below in this thread, you're at a dead end here because no leader will take on new remote workers.
- if you are less than 40 miles from an office that has room for you, you have to go in, regardless of prior remote agreement. If you have a medical accommodation, you are spared in-office. All accommodations are periodically reviewed, and they don't travel with you to another job.
Here's how it's going to work in the future. these are firm plans and they just haven't done the big reveal yet, but we had a foreshadowing of it earlier this year with HR displacing people based on remote status or non-core location:
- anyone more than 40 miles from a go-forward location (not all current locations are go-forward locations) will not have a job. Some LOBs will offer relocation assistance to a go forward location to keep your job, some LOBs won't. Displacements will happen in phases/waves, and this will be different than the BAU displacement engine that will keep running
- if you have a medical accommodation, you must be 40 miles or less from a go-forward location.
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if you're for real - enjoy it while you can. managers have discretion to grant things like this for a month or so - not indefinitely At some point, your manager will be told they have to write you up for noncompliance - even if they told you it was OK. If they don't do it then they get written up, etc.
I'm 100% remote and it's not bc of medical accommodation. I'm within 40-mile radius (15 mins from office). I have to take my daughter to school and activities and wouldn't be able to do that if I had to RTO. Got exception from mgt. (My husband works from home, too, and isn't able to take her.)
I would tend to agree with your analysis. Tormenting people into voluntarily resigning is Hudson Yards MO. That said, we've lost 2200 or so remote people (almost 10% of the the total) in the last 4 months. That's either a very successful psychological operation or they are downsizing a good number of them. Time will tell. Whether WF likes it or not, WFH is the future for many types of work. Buildings simply cost too much and carry too much risk for an organization to be successful while operating under the burden.
Texas
We are going 4 days a week in office 1/1
Medical issues are definitely the only reason I'm aware of that guarantee a Full Time Remote position. This guarantee is only predicated upon submission of a medical form filled out in entirety and signed by your doctor.
Full time remote here. Manager called out the other remote who were under the 40 mile rule and started there loser it working a few years. For some reason I wasn't included in the call out.
No clue why my job still exists, let alone why I'm still employed here.
Heard they are doing away with the 40 mile rule.
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Every single person I know that has been displaced recently was not remote. WF is pinching most FT remotes with little to no raises, significantly smaller bonuses last and this year, blocking their ability to get a different internal job of any kind, etc. all with the hopes they will “force” voluntarily attrition and save severance.
No doubt WF doesn’t want remotes but it seems they’re really trying to get remotes to leave willingly. If not successful, then I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before displacement.
I hope they lay off this full time Rto worker of 15 years
Where I am located we have not yet called back remote works as there is no office space for them.
"domestic positions are being sent to India, and the Philippines. Very few, if any exceptions in the end. Unless you are senior management, then the rules don’t apply to you. Charles has spoken."
FIFY. Once the women and children have been hearded into the hubs, the doors will be chained and the torches will be brought out. Domestic employees are all going to go.
It's a freaking slow effort to layoff all remote employees. In my area, all the layoffs were office dwellers in non-hub locations, while remotes are still here.
Mgmt isn't transparent with their plans because they are guessing as they go. Maybe our names are written on lotto ba--s.
Remote positions are being sent to India, the Philippines or hub locations. Very few, if any exceptions in the end. Unless you are senior management, then the rules don’t apply to you. Charles has spoken.
Why don’t you ask them yourself instead of posting random questions on the internet?
Those 2 on your team are lucky at the moment but for you 3 days now will soon turn into 5 days starting next year so enjoy while it lasts.
It takes an act of Congress to get full time remote now. Unless you have a true medical need, probably shouldn't even ask.
If you are FT RTO because you are more then 40miles, they are laying all those workers off little by little.