Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

No employee comments for mid-year evaluation

I understand WF doesn't care about employees but could they at least fake it?

I rec'd Meets rating. Will never get more from current gaslighting manager no matter how efficiently and effectively I work.

What I have equal problwm with is that manager "quotes" me in my evaluation, but they are things I've NEVER said. And they are d*mning things! I pointed this out during evaluation and was told "Well, that's what I heard." I restated things I've said, to clarify and correct. Mgr said nothing. This happened last year, too. I clearly see the pattern and intent.

Then, have to acknowledge evaluation in CP&D tool with NO section for employee comments. It's ridiculous. And we can't even print a copy of the eval or email it to ourselves (prohibited to send external emails to ourselves) either, or even take pics (only 2 lines appear at a time). This is ALL done to thwart Legal documentation.

I get that it's just an acknowledgement that the evaluation was given, but what a crock that mgrs can blatantly LIE (surely, trying to build a case and paper out solid employee to avoid paying severance) with no opportunity for written recourse by employee to set the record straight or tell other side of story.

This company is so unethical. I've known it. We all have. But not even allowing for employee comments in evaluation acknowledgment when other companies do is an extra slap in the face.

I know HR would do nothing with them anyway. But it's a documentation for legal ourposes. I know the key is other companies (i.e., RUN to them).

Note: I contacted HR last year when mgr did this, asking to at least add comments to my employee file, and was told I could not. I asked for copy of my employee file and was told that was not possible and WF doesn't do that. Total B.S.

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Post ID: @OP+1c6vrLvV

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yea, just erase the other comments put in and put your own in

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Post ID: @2ngu+1c6vrLvV

Use your personal cell to take screen shots. Duh.

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Post ID: @2knn+1c6vrLvV

@2oan+1c6vrLvV

Who cares if it's logged? Not a policy violation to print your own review, so 'log away'.

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Post ID: @2lbk+1c6vrLvV

@1qkm Of course you can have a legal case. Just hire an attorney and have him or her subpoena all of your electronic and written files and documents.

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Post ID: @2qvs+1c6vrLvV

@2een cause print queues are so much harder to log than encrypted email.

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Post ID: @2oan+1c6vrLvV

So when i request log files from the technology team, attach to an email, click the Encrypt Zix button, and send to our vendor partner, they are not actually receiving them? Even though they review and offer advice back to us? We’ve been actively engaged over the last 6 months or so with them emailing back and forth…

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Post ID: @2zhm+1c6vrLvV

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Print, take home, do whatever you want with it. It's not "bogus advice", it's a simple solution that works.

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Post ID: @2een+1c6vrLvV

For all those with bogus advice on this thread:

▪️You are not allowed to use thumb drive on WF devices (foreign, unapproved and blocked; READ HANDBOOK).

▪️ You can no longer send ANY emails securely via Zix (must use FTP sites and not send anything to personal emails -- they WILL be blocked). WF removed that option due to too many issues with "misuse". READ HANDBOOK.

▪️ Writing a self evaluation does NOTHING to counter a mgr including lies in your performance evaluation. You can't edit your self evaluation after the fact (it's locked) nor enter comment in performance evaluation acknowledgment to address mgr's erroneous info.

You are scrwed at this company. It's a completely unethical shitshow. And WF doesn't give a dmn. They want you to quit so they can avoid severance payout. This is main reason for RTO push (make employees miserable) - not collaboration kumbaya B.S.

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Post ID: @2ysv+1c6vrLvV

well, i think its due to this older lady that works here, she is one mean cookie to everyone and lazy;

we moved to a new group this year, she made it over, and think she rips the managers new one's and everyone else she works with. This might be to censor this behavior.

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Post ID: @2ypc+1c6vrLvV

HR is doing a terrible job recruiting… thought we only hire the best… Also, Charlie’s emails with words of encouragement and personal thank you that reach even “needs improvement” are all fake?

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Post ID: @1rka+1c6vrLvV

I don’t send to myself too much, but I use the Send Secure option all the time to send both internally and externally (to vendors). Are people saying you cannot send email to public accounts like gmail/yahoo/etc?

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Post ID: @1sdv+1c6vrLvV

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Can't send secure anymore. WF eliminated that option.

Has anyone on this board been paying attention to all that WF has done to ensure you can't send anything to yourself?

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Post ID: @1fdb+1c6vrLvV

What nonsense . .. Your cell phone is as good as any electronic evidence you need . Take a picture and you are done . The onus will be on the organization to prove that your version is different from theirs and therefore bot admissible. This they cannot.

Many of you are way overthinking this. I don’t think you guys recognize the problem if you have been given an inconsistently meets, your immediate recourse is your manager, her manager, and HR in that order. Not to sue for you getting a bad review.

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Post ID: @1uzx+1c6vrLvV

Zip it and send secure. It works just fine…

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Post ID: @1dho+1c6vrLvV

I have noticed this as well, documents you used to be able to email to your personal email are now restricted. I'm sure Legal collaborated ways to make discovery of documents harder. That way, it forces your attorney to submit a formal subpoena request for them, and then it gets tied up in a lawsuit pi----g match.

It's rotten to the bone. But nothing should surprise you/me with this place and its practices.

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Post ID: @1lre+1c6vrLvV

You id--ts. Send the document encrypted and it goes through. And if you want to document a disagreement have a convo with your boss and put in a check-in note within cp&d. Think you id--ts and grow up. Damn.

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Post ID: @1iws+1c6vrLvV

This whole exercise is a fraud. Chuck needs to terminate 60% of support and above immediately. They won't be missed total later of incompetence

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Post ID: @1asj+1c6vrLvV

Get a WF approved thumb drive. Take screenshots of the PDFs and put them on the drive.

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Post ID: @1plj+1c6vrLvV

I'm in the same boat as OP. Would have a Legal case if I could get access to my files. Can't print PDFs and can't forward them to home address (WF prohibits it).. They scr*w employees by making sure they cant build a case via documentation. It's all part of their evil master plan. WF is circling the drain.

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Post ID: @1qkm+1c6vrLvV

To all those that say print or email yourself the PDF, YOU CAN'T ANYMORE!!! It's been that way for a while. You can't print at home and you get blocked from emailing ANYTHING to your personal email address from work address.
You can't print a pdf at home and many cannot go to the office yet to print.

Also, the self evaluation can't address lies by manager in the mgt evaluation AFTER you've written your self evaluation. No way to supplement it either. I tried. It's locked.

Does anybody on this thread actually have any helpful tips or just a bunch of things they haven't tried that don't work?

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Post ID: @1ilo+1c6vrLvV

Easy to document. Print it at the office, scan it at home, do whatever you want with it.

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Post ID: @1xlt+1c6vrLvV

I’m just hoping my rubbish evaluation from Rachael means I’m on the short list for layoffs. Seriously, over the last year and a half at home, I’ve had 2 one on one meetings with my “manager”. I pretty much got warehoused and treated like an afterthought for 18 months only to get blasted with a “needs improvement” review. Was it deserved? Have you ever polished a tu-d? Fire me or lay me off. Corporate risk is a joke.

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Post ID: @1der+1c6vrLvV

you can print a pdf copy of your review in cp&d. also as stated elsewhere you could have and should have written a self review.

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Post ID: @hrb+1c6vrLvV

Did you write anything in your self evaluation in early June? That would have been your chance.

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Post ID: @vjx+1c6vrLvV

Go into the Performance Docs icon - you can get the whole thing in a formatted PDF.

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Post ID: @ghs+1c6vrLvV

Well- run companies have an effective appeals process for employee reviews.

Having said that, I would never describe Wells Fargo as well-run or fair. Some of us are able to survive working here because we have decent bosses. But if you have a crummy boss, your only choice is to leave unfortunately. Don’t let a bad manager drag you down for too long. Best of luck to you.

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Post ID: @lie+1c6vrLvV

“Senator Warren, I got rated the same as 60% of the employees at the bank, come stick for me”

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Post ID: @xbr+1c6vrLvV

Write your Senator. Write Senate Banking Cmte.

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Post ID: @dmz+1c6vrLvV

Unethical is a gross understatement. Anything you say or do can be used against you, and will. Its like the Miranda rule...just remain silent and get a fuggin lawyer, is all you can do. And leave.

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Post ID: @oui+1c6vrLvV

HR is looking out for the company, they don't care what employees think. It's unfortunate but as soon as you make noise, they look for ways to get rid of you.

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