Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Nobody owes you anything

Some of you sound awfully entitled.

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Post ID: @OP+1n2U3vrJ

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This is all true and employees are not entitled to anything but the money and benefits due for the work they give. But this company does go out of its way to try to make people believe they are part of a greater work family. The V-Team. Is it all a lie? Perhaps. Then it becomes disingenuous of leadership to spout work family out of one side of the mouth and layoffs out of the other. The wise never truly drink the koolaid even though many are drawn in by the concept of a work family. Don't take the bait. Just do your job and go on with your own life after work is over. Word from the wise.

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Post ID: @7blo+1n2U3vrJ

https://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_why_good_leaders_make_you_feel_safe/c?language=en#t-4403

Time: 11:46

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Post ID: @2ndf+1n2U3vrJ

And who created the problem with the exhaustive corporate debt? Why is he/she continue to be in a leadership position and not fired with merit?

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Post ID: @7aho+1n2U3vrJ

Nobody owes you anything because Verizon has a debt problem.

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Post ID: @1ufo+1n2U3vrJ

So its fathomable to destroy a company due to a lack of leadership and lack of competence by the executive C-Suite leadership whereby innocent livelihoods are screwed. You are out of touch. See you in the state unemployment line.

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Post ID: @1jlb+1n2U3vrJ

'Employees embraced these jobs knowing there is a sense of security which is being destroyed by the executive leadership due to the lack of decision-making.'

Nope. No job has any 'sense of security'. It is something workers think they have when the company is doing well.

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Post ID: @1ufo+1n2U3vrJ

'I could not agree more. If you are here, you chose to be. Own it. Verizon (like any company) owes you nothing. They did not drag you out of your home and make you work here. You chose it. If you don't like it, you are free to go else where. Stop complaining and move on. You choose every day to come to work.'

Exactly. But people rather whine, they don't want to put in the effort to look for something else. Instead of taking advantage of the 'horrible' tuition that VZ offers and learn something useful if they 'want' to leave, they would rather whine.

YOU define your working career, not your employer.

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Post ID: @1ait+1n2U3vrJ

Everybody is replaceable and expendable to include even you.

A corporation is not to be provide and to support social welfare for its employees.

However, a corporation such as VZ needs to provide an work environment where the corporation will continue to succeed and not go into bankruptcy as is the current path and just a matter of time. Because the current C-Suite is irrelevant, incompetent, and supports social justice.

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Post ID: @1jdd+1n2U3vrJ

That's what happens when individuals get to comfortable. They start to develop a sense of entitlement, behaving like spoiled children when things don't go their way. When my manager got rifed he whined daily about how they did them dirty but had no qualms about enjoying the financial benefits—cashing paychecks, 20% bonuses, providing for his children's private education and expensive extracurricular activities, buying a boat, and having the luxury to be able to build his own home—all while working less than 5 hours day and even calling what he did as work is a stretch of the imagination. The truth is, companies don't owe you anything. Should be thankful for the decent compensation, a reasonable benefits package, and given severance package. remember that the majority of Americans lack these perks, so be grateful for what you got and if you still feel sad go find a safe space or just leave. If this offends you then yes Karen you are the entitled brat. Go ahead and down this comment with your fat stubby finger still won’t change the fact that you are REPLACEABLE! Bye Felicia!

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Post ID: @1ait+1n2U3vrJ

I owe it to myself to continue to get paid for doing nothing and to top it off getting promoted while doing so. This is the Verizon way.

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Post ID: @1pjx+1n2U3vrJ

It’s crystal clear in business that all you are due is a paycheck. Reality check. VZ is very generous with its RIF packages so what it really boils down to is, go to work like it’s the first job u ever had, or leave. Business 101. ALL BIG CORPS are run this way.

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Post ID: @dsc+1n2U3vrJ

Some responses mention that it is “not a level playing field.” No, it is not, it’s not supposed to be. what corporation in America is? Does the person who rings up your purchase at Macy’s get treated the same as the CEO? Does the person who brings you your food at a restaurant get treated the same as it’s owner? Do your children gave the same input into running the house as you do? There aren’t any even playing fields. Just that as adults we get to choose which field we want to play on.

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Post ID: @syj+1n2U3vrJ

Was told I'd have a pension. Was told I'd have retirement health care. After 18 years they reneged.

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Post ID: @blz+1n2U3vrJ

Unioners are the most entitled of all. Just read the contract.

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Post ID: @dcx+1n2U3vrJ

I am very well versed with, at-will, the definition and explanation you copied and pasted. But there is more to the issue, the destruction of the company resultant as to boneheaded management. You are not the only wise one that can copy and paste.

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Post ID: @cnr+1n2U3vrJ

In case you didn't read it:

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.

You are here as long as the company wants you and as long as you are willing to sell your skill set for the wages offered. NOTHING MORE.

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Post ID: @uff+1n2U3vrJ

Still vehemently disagree. And I am not the OP. And this paramount issue has nothing to do with VZ's embrace to social justice and also conversely, social injustice. Rather about doing the job as a professional and to be meaningful held accountable.

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Post ID: @uff+1n2U3vrJ

Vehemently disagree!! There are issues which need to be voiced because there are forces making bad decisions insulting the innocent and their respective livelihoods. Employees embraced these jobs knowing there is a sense of security which is being destroyed by the executive leadership due to the lack of decision-making.

Individuals have poured their hard work for the customers and the shareholders and to have it destroyed without accountability.

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Post ID: @roi+1n2U3vrJ

I could not agree more. If you are here, you chose to be. Own it. Verizon (like any company) owes you nothing. They did not drag you out of your home and make you work here. You chose it. If you don't like it, you are free to go elseware. Stop complaining and move on. You choose every day to come to work. You are where you are in life because of choices you made. It's easy to blame someone else for your lot so you do not have to take personal responsability. Hans didn't do it, Verizon didn't do it, Trump didn't do it.... YOU DID IT. Grow up.

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Post ID: @uff+1n2U3vrJ

Quarterly corporate dividend to shareholders and employee RIFs. No growth. No net additional wireless customers, churn minus new additions.

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Post ID: @pxk+1n2U3vrJ

To be clear the pension for management for frozen. But Verizon does not have bringing back the pension of it list of things to do. The current massive debt will not allow any money to be spent on other then the corporate dividend.

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Post ID: @scs+1n2U3vrJ

The company does owe the pensions they took away or they should have let the managers return to their tools. It was never ever presented to in any way shape or form that the company could stop funding your pension.

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Post ID: @jga+1n2U3vrJ

OP: makes a profound statement and does have merit. It is not a level playing field. However, the economic distress with the poor VZ corporate balance sheet, sucks, and therefore employee RIFs will continue at an exponential pace.

VZ's employee headcount will need to be reduced by at least 25,000 US employees to be able to improve free cash flow, pay the corporate dividend, and pay the large corporate debt amounting in billions.

Survival of the fittest and being at the right place at the right time.

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Post ID: @qit+1n2U3vrJ

The OPs attitude is why we have laws to protect people from people like him/her.

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Post ID: @vxm+1n2U3vrJ

We were not given jobs we applied and were selected there is no slaveship

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Post ID: @cfz+1n2U3vrJ

It is not a level playing field.

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Post ID: @zhv+1n2U3vrJ

You need to go and pound sand 😎

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Post ID: @sro+1n2U3vrJ

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