Supreme Court just blocked it - permanently. May want to retract that demand unless you wanna get sued...
https://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-halts-covid-19-193050385.html
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If anyone on this thread would have been a filthy little collaborator in WWII Occupied France, we know it'd probably be you.
It was struck down by a federal district court, administration is appealing to 5th circuit.. depending on that ruling it THEN it will go to the supreme court.
Federal contractor mandate shot down by the Supremes.
You id--ts actually think Frank implemented the vaccine policy because of the fed mandate?! It was an excuse to fire people! Duh!!
...and, Starbucks just announced today that they're backing off the vax mandate.
Pretty sad when even Starbucks shows more sense than Frank.
I strongly support a Body-Mass-Index requirement for all existing and new employees. The decrease in health costs alone should pay make us profitable within a few months. Don't even get me started on overweight and unvaxxed people! They are taking up all the hospital beds in my area!
anything outside of CNN is "Q anon" right
don't know what aaon is sir I have had all the shots etc just pointing out a federal district judge issued a preliminary injunction barring enforcement of the mandate. (aka a stay) it is up to the administration to take the matter to a higher court to have it overruled. Everyone should have gotten the shot period on the other hand going forward we need to start listening to the science vs following the dr-g companies.
I've had bell's palsy before from a different virus. It was not a big deal.
1ou, you sound like a Q Anon crank.
The federal mandate for federal contractors is not paused. The OSHA mandate is struck down, but that does not stop any company from having its OWN mandate. The court ruling does not ban private companies from having their own mandates.
Fiserv doesn't have anything to prove regarding its own vaccine mandate.
I am so relieved that many anti-vaxxer nut jobs have been booted out of this company!
"What are you going to sue for? The cost of the vaccine? It was free LOL"
Look up myocarditis, stroke, bell's palsy, pulmonary embolism, and a large number of other side effects that have been reported to CDC VAERS.
If a Fiserv employee took the vax, and even years later happens to suffer any medical damage at all that lines up with the already-reported vax adverse reactions, then Fiserv, due to coercion ('get the jab or lose your job!') becomes highly likely to be legally liable for damages. The fed mandate is paused due to ongoing and unsolved litigation, with a high likelihood of being destroyed. The private industry mandate is dead. Fiserv cannot at this moment declare that they acted in Good Faith.
If I were Fiserv's lawyer I'd be sweating like a prostie in church right now...
re: "This ruling does NOT mean that an employer cannot impose a vaccine mandate."
This does not mean that Fiserv is magically shielded from litigation. With a government rule in place and enforced (not paused, but active), Frank had a fig leaf to hide behind. He has no such thing right now.
Technically there is a stay on the federal contractor mandate:
AP Story illustrating United Air Lines..
United Airlines was one of the first major employers to announce a mandate, back in August. CEO Scott Kirby has said that 99% of United employees either got vaccinated or submitted a request for exemption on medical or religious grounds.
United declined to comment Thursday, but in earlier comments Kirby has sounded committed to the mandate for his employees because “it was the right thing to do for safety.”
Airlines fall under a separate Biden order that required federal contractors to get their workers vaccinated. That requirement was not part of Thursday's Supreme Court ruling, but it has been tied up separately since early December, when a federal district judge in Georgia issued a preliminary injunction barring enforcement of the mandate.
Many posters are misinformed.
Put aside the whole federal contractor issue, which is separate from the OSHA mandate.
This ruling does NOT mean that an employer cannot impose a vaccine mandate.
It means that OSHA cannot impose it.
That is a very big difference people.
Many companies have surcharges or discounts for people who participate in wellness programs that involve things like weight, nutrition, exercise, smoking, and reporting on certain tests.
The difference here is that those things impact only that person (and their related potential health care costs), while a vaccination against highly transmissible disease impacts... well, everyone.
So the analogy between the two, is very illogical and not convincing.
@bgz+1eM0KEen - there would not be a separation agreement. Term is for policy violation and most won't even qualify for unemployment
I believe the poster that was let go from Fiserv is right about what Employers will try to Require for Employment if their Vax Mandates go unchecked.
I don't know about the 200lbs requirement, but I could see Employees needing to share other medical/personal information.
Guessing even if you are ok with mandating the Vax, you may not be ok with what they try to mandate next.
Think about all of the free time you recently fired Herman Cain Award nominees have now to gargle horse paste or make pi-s popsicles or whatever bu-----t you will be into next month instead of just getting a free vaccine that could save your life or those unfortunate enough to be around you.
I was one of the Fiserv Associates released On 1/4/22 for not providing my Private Medical Information... Please Note this was done via a Corporate Email with a link to the Documents I would need Post Termination.
What Frank B. and Other CEO's are doing using the Gov't Mandate as a cover is wrong... It doesn't matter if you chose to get Vax'd or not, this is something that no one should stand for... Plane and simple, this is outright Discrimination... People are being divided into Clean (Vax'd) and Unclean (Unvax'd) Groups.
This Month they require you to be Vax'd... Next Month you'll need to weight less than 200lbs... And this will be the precedent that will be pointed back to making it ok for that Private Business to make it a requirement of employment.
If you want to know more about the Fiserv Vax Policy and those that are fighting back checkout WeTheEmployees (@WeEmployees2021) on Twitter... There is an open letter to the CEO and a story about the companies dishonesty prior to rolling out their Vax Mandate... Follow and be a part of the fight against the loss of our rights as employees.
It's not experimental. We've been developing mRNA vaccine technology for decades, and the first human clinical trials using an mRNA vaccine against an infectious agent began in 2013. The only difference with this vaccine is the code we're sending. The vaccines underwent clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people, and 9.37 billion doses have been given. It is the largest global vaccine rollout in history, being intensely scrutinized by health authorities around the world. I'm not saying you should be forced to take it, I'm just saying it's no more experimental than any other routine vaccine.
Sorry OP but you are wrong. Either you did not read the fine print or you are hearing what you want to hear.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/supreme-court-employers-vaccine-mandate-51642118980
People on this thread are by and large misinformed (aka, Wrong)
https://www.barrons.com/articles/supreme-court-employers-vaccine-mandate-51642118980
So let's see, Frank wants to mandate the vax (or testing) and RTO, get ready for more brain drain.
Companies are not prohibited from having mandates. The government just cant tell them to have it. Anyway the governments version was Vax or Test. AFAIK Fiserv is only Vax
What are you going to sue for? The cost of the vaccine? It was free LOL
The OP is wrong.
This ruling applies only to large companies by way of the OSHA mandate.
The Fiserv mandate relates to the mandate for federal contractors.
Another example of anti-vaxxer misinformation.
A requirement that large companies mandate vaccines or weekly testing for workers was blocked by the Supreme Court on Thursday, leaving the choice up to employers.
I think it is beyond clear what Fiserv has decided and will move forward with its vaccine related work requirements regardless of the Supreme Court decision.
This issue is over
This is related to the OSHA rule, not the federal contractor rule. Federal contractor requirement still in effect
For those laid off (meaning fired) recently over this call your lawyer…before you sign a separation agreement