Fired from the executive board for "inappropriate behaviour at a recent company event". Yet in the same email telling us this, the SAP supervisory board wish him well in the future and thank him for his accomplishments...
Surely they aren't thanking and wishing well to a s-x pest... So it makes me wonder what his inappropriate behaviour was?
They just gave him a new contract and we're going all in on him as CTO for the BTP revolution, so it must have been pretty serious.
SAP is overflowing with predators and mgmt turns a blind eye for one reason only... $$$ they don't want to get in the mix of a lawsuit. Literally I'm on a team with a known preditor who in currently under investigation, AGAIN. None of us, no matter our gender or orientation, want to work with this person but we are suffering his BS because SAP is too lazy and cheap to deal with him because they don't want the back splatter.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/03/former_sap_cto_payout/
The management of the layoffs and the direct attribute to reduction of workforce due to the link with AI innovations is purely BS. Additionally, there were no performance benchmarks discussed during the process. Exit interviews and the departure process was conducted in a very unprofessional manner. The worst I have seen. Sadly, I burned 5 years with the company, and you get treated badly by L1/L2.
I think he did something bad.
For the person below: here's the link to the speak out tool.
https://app.convercent.com/en-us/LandingPage/c11fcf9e-a052-ea11-a972-000d3ab9f062?_=1616097379987
In April this year he spoke at an internal meeting about sometimes being off video at the beginning of morning meetings as he's making his partner cappuccino in the mornings at home.
Most of us are actually working when in our home offices, during work hours and certainly not during work meetings are we engaged in tasks outside work. It galled me at the time to hear him proudly laughing about this on stage.
I wonder if he's still making that partner's coffee...
The victim apparently had to go to Bloomberg AGAIN
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/s-xual-harassment-probe-opened-against-sap-cto-jurgen-muller-heres-what-the-company-said/articleshow/113334171.cms
https://www.mobileworldlive.com/ai-cloud/sap-cto-faces-german-criminal-probe/
Could anyone share the internal link for the whistleblower tool? Already heard about 2 Me-too instances by extended colleagues in Germany lately other than JM. Culture is going to $#!T
Mueller has to be d-mbest person to ever exist. He was a hasso golden child, a title achieved by less than 5 people in thsi company. His development experience is equal to a new hire intern yet was an executive board member collecting millions. He had two jobs at SAP: do not mess with DEI and no company violations. Do that and he’d collect millions for a very long time, yet he still managed to mess that up.
Good riddance, sc-m.
Word is, they have downgraded the role and are trying to replace him with a T2 ... (sarcasm, of course).
Can someone share the link for the buisiness insider article, can’t seem to find it.
Just a few days ago, on the 3rd. September, the software giant SAP surprisingly announced its separation from its technology board member Jürgen Müller. The communication of his departure is unusually clear: Müller admitted that he had behaved inappropriately at a company event.
Now there are clearer indications of what apparently happened and how the group dealt with the allegations.
According to research by Business Insider, Müller is said to have inappropriately approached an employee at a company event sometime between the beginning of April and the end of August. Among other things, the three-day Sapphire fair in the US state of Orlando at the beginning of June would be an option. In a group image video at the fair, Müller is also briefly displayed on stage, but unlike the other board members, he does not have his say.
Several witnesses are said to have reported the incident around Müller via a whistleblower tool
What exactly happened at the said event, few details circulate in the group. However, it is said that Müller's behavior in the USA falls under the term "s-xual harassment". This includes s-xual remarks up to physical approaches. The "Wirtschaftswoche" also reports this.
Several witnesses had then reported the incident via a whistleblower tool, after which an internal investigation was launched in the compliance department, in the course of which Müller and the whistleblowers were heard. A trial that apparently lasted several weeks. SAP does not want to comment further on questions about the background of the incident.
The expulsion of Müller joins two more farewells to SAP top managers
According to information from Business Insider, Müller's behavior towards employees at company events was always the cause for conversation in the group. So whether the incident was now sufficient on its own to separate from Müller - especially since in the USA the limits for misconduct are much stricter than in Germany and corporations are therefore cracking down harder - or whether the incident was part of a number of other accusations remains open for the time being. But the fact is: the abrupt end and public communication are unusual – especially for German conditions.
It was only in April that Müller's contract, who was responsible, among other things, for the new technology strategy and development, was extended. Before his departure became known, the board members of the board Julia White, formerly responsible for marketing, and the former chief salesman Scott Russell had already left SAP at the end of August.
In the company itself, the previous departures of White and Russell are also an explanation for why SAP communicated the reason for Müller's resignation so concretely. It is possible that the Group's top management did not want to take any damage due to the concentrated dismissals of top staff.
Müller apologized in an internal email for his behavior at the company event
Müller, a trained business informatics, was considered to be considerate, professionally versed in meetings within the company and had the reputation of being able to think beyond hierarchies. He grew up in a working-class family, his father a social worker, his mother a nurse; taught himself programming and applied for a doctoral position at the Hasso Plattner Institute after completing his studies. Plattner, who co-founded SAP and has since retired, was not only his doctoral supervisor, but apparently also protected him in the company for a long time. At the age of 36, Müller already moved into the board of SAP.
In his farewell email, which is available to Business Insider, Müller writes translated into German: "I have been a CTO for almost six years (no. Red. Chief Technology Officer) and has been with SAP for eleven years. It makes me sad that this journey ends after an incident of inappropriate behavior at a recent company event. I regret that I acted thoughtlessly at this moment and sincerely apologize.”
At the end of the mail, Müller explains: "I have learned to follow the principle: "If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together." The top manager has now built the common path with SAP.
“I do not know how the stock can still be so high.”
Layoffs + Layoffs + Layoffs + jobs going to low cost locations.
Rinse and repeat until CK - also known as The Hasso Puppet - and his buddies can’t squeeze more money and employees that still at the company are left holding the bag
The fish stinks from the head. Christian Klein is not a good person. He is poisonous.
https://www.businessinsider.de/wirtschaft/wieso-sap-vorstand-mueller-den-softwarekonzern-verlassen-muss/
Anyone knows what's behind the paywall?
What was the “Klein” incident?
SAP is in a severe downspin right now. Between the Klein "incident" and the departure of Plattner, White, Russell and now Mueller - das ist eine really bad year for the company.
The RTO mandates aren't winning any popularity polls, either. I do not know how the stock can still be so high.
Any one with a subscription to Handelsblatt, what does it say here?
https://www.handelsblatt.com/technik/it-internet/sap-vorstand-mueller-soll-sich-mitarbeiterin-unangemessen-genaehert-haben/100065725.html
The SAP reply is so inauthentic. They punished him because it was in public and others witnessed it. Otherwise, I seriously doubt they would have done anything about it.
@2qrz+1ukwPwf8, spot on. The German white boys club is falling apart. Popcorn ready.
@1prs+1ukwPwf8 your inability to read a report is showing. The executive board comp is available at https://www.sap.com/investors/en/reports.html?sort=latest_desc&search=Compensation%20&tab=reports&pdf-asset=ce660e95-ad7e-0010-bca6-c68f7e60039b&page=1
You are mis-reading https://www.golem.de/news/juergen-mueller-sap-technikchef-muss-wegen-belaestigung-einer-kollegin-gehen-2409-188665.amp.html which refers to Jen Morgan having made 15M.
there is a PR statement about this and in it the cost to cut Julia. a cool 15M to shove her out the door.
So that is why there were RTO enforcements, so all them hot ladies/gentlemen can come to the office and be s3xu4lly harassed?
No thanks, we all know that dating and marrying your colleagues (man or woman, regardless of gender and orientation) is a recipe for disaster. This could've been averted if people stayed at home and focused on their work.
Stick to Tinder and Bumble. Find a chick who works at Oracle and marry her. LOL!
In the coffee corner someone once said that in the past, the board and L1 level did whatever… then there was middle management that diluted any cr-p from above, and the staff who continued to innovate and satisfy the customers, ignoring whatever the board did. Everybody was happy.
The problem started when the top management enforced their lousy policies and decisions everywhere.
When ignoring the clown show is no longer an option, people lose morale, productivity suffers, and in the long run, customer satisfaction will tank.
SAP is a complete mess the leadership have no idea how they are demoralising staff and getting rid of good people while a large majority hang on, many of which are not high performers. The management is put into positions where they have zero experience or qualification to do the job, presenting metrics that are not factual... an extremely toxic environment to work in. Not sure how SAP customers see a company being destroyed by the SAP Board and much of its leadership.
This is all so disappointing.
Can anyone imagine Henning, or Jim, getting into such a situation? I can‘t.
Why is the current crop of executives at least in part not able to control themselves?
So was the "inappropriate behavior" dressing down / losing his temper at a (female?) employee.....or propositioning one (se-----y)? Big difference.....
Post from TheLayoff.com
Seriously? "DEI-related?" Wow. SAP has some internal cleansing to do.
Yeah never approach a female or male colleague at work. Absolute career and financial su----e.
This is why you never date and marry your colleagues. S3xual harassment allegations can ruin your life!
Another exec getting paid out the remainder of their contract while leaving?
really the most surprising part of this is SAP was willing to pay for a company event
www.golem.de/news/juergen-mueller-sap-technikchef-muss-wegen-belaestigung-einer-kollegin-gehen-2409-188665.amp.html
So harassment of a woman?
Noidea
At this rate, CK will either go bald or resign
Im not surprised this happened. I worked at sap about 6 years ago. we drank at the office on fridays and ended up at bars after work. it felt like a good place to work if you wanted to let go and hook up. I wasnt offended. I left cause i got a better offer. It only upset me when my coworkers were horsing around and i was stuck completing projects. you can expect a lot more of this if the company hasnt changed since i left.
It sounds like he lost his temper. In a big way. At his level and in public, the consequences are dire.
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/sap-ruecktritt-mueller-100.html
Here is the answer. Tagesschau said that: „ When asked, the company and a spokeswoman did not provide any details about the incident. The business newspaper Handelsblatt reports that Müller is said to have “inappropriately approached” an employee at an event a few weeks ago. Other people witnessed the incident. There was an internal investigation. According to information from the SAP workforce, managers described the separation as “no alternative”
He was forcing too hard those new concepts and technologies. Why do I need Eclipse to create a CDS View and do all this ridiculous RAP files and annotations to create a web application that no one can maintain?
What is wrong with the old and perfect dynpro screens where I can just write my ABAP code like I want? Likely SAP realized that SAP GUI is the way to go.