Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

@1ktg - You stated “... I was skilled and never promoted bc I was not white.” and “... did maybe 2-3 hours of work, some days none ... Some days I’d just get up and leave and be gone hours.” Rather than use the implied victim of being held-back the white man excuse, perhaps some self-reflection on your work ethic is more appropriate and warranted!

@The_Great_Cornholio, CDP = Career Development Program. It was training program prior to stint on road starting up process units. These folks then returned to office in Engineering or Tech Service roles. It was a pipeline for new talent that has been completely eliminated now (all folks in program RIFed).

Agreed with @1ktg+166wMC5V, the issue is that the senior mgmt at UOP lost momentum, all they do is to follow the orders from DEA. The blonde lady at least was ruthless pushing hard. Now, everyone is just sitting here doing nothing and waiting for the death or to be sold

Agreed with @1ktg+166wMC5V, the issue is that the senior mgmt at UOP lost momentum, all they do is to follow the orders from DEA. The blonde lady at least was ruthless pushing hard. Now, everyone is just sitting here doing nothing and waiting for the death or to be sold

@1ktg+166wMC5V went to RTX I bet...

@1ktg I agree with some of what you said about UOP senior management being a White man's club and so I heard some of the older white people complain about their colleagues in other parts of the world (which is justified or not, I leave it for others to judge). However, what I disagree is about the work culture at UOP being laid back. Perhaps, you were in a role that being laid back was OK, but for most others it was a grueling job (at least in engineering) with high work load and tight schedules and rigid work processes. Anyone in their right mind should quit UOP voluntarily or not, once they acquire the right skills. I am sure there are plenty of companies who respect that experience. Few final words of advice for all young'uns out there- oil and gas will definitely not be a career choice for lot of millennials in future, as Tech is going to dominate the rest of the century. But, ultimately what sets Chemi's apart from the rest of the others is the way they can relate physical world in a meaningful way with their engineering knowledge. Use that skills to change the world, stop thinking conventionally that skills you learnt in college will keep your job secure. It is rather how adaptable you are and how you use the skills you gained to change the world, that matters. In future, companies will only need people who can look at the bigger picture and relate to multiple disciplines such as tech, engineering, statistics etc.. So be glad that you are out of old world culture of UOP. The future is bright for people with right mind set!

I don’t think most people understand somethings are fundamentally wrong with UOP’s business. I was in my early 30s and quit end of 2018. Here are my reasons:

1. I paid really well but sat in my office all day or did Skype calls, did maybe 2-3 hours of work, some days none, and mostly told people in emerging countries what to do. Some days I’d just get up and leave and be gone hours. This is an unrealistic job and spoiled me. Maybe I was really efficient at my job but frankly I found there were many folks there that sat around. I did get good reviews and positive feedback from 360s so my reviews were fine.
2. Refining is dead. There is some growth left in petchem but realistically this business cannot grow. So what’s going to happen, they will cut the operating expenditures in half.
3. The cost structure grows each year while the revenue stalls, declines or is unpredictable.
4. The senior level management team has no respect for the people who developed UOP technology. They are just there to exploit the tech for their own personal gain. You can see from the current leaders, they are all part of a circle.
5. I was skilled and never promoted bc I was not white. I hate to say it but the inner leadership is a group of white males who are right wing but do an excellent job to hide this. I’ve overheard countless conversations generalizing minorities.
6. The past blonde female ceo was a hard working southern lady, she had some of these guys in check. She was a bit ruthless but I honesty don’t blame her.

Sure it was an easy job but I new it couldn’t last forever. My new job is super hard on comparison, I’m always on calls and there is a full days or more work in front of me. The HR protects individual contributors and minorities here to the point of annoyance.

@ret, this company does not deserve top talent and would not keep it for long if they did get any, considering how today's young people compare notes on social media

Sad to see them k–l the pipeline of new talent again. It took UOP a long time to gain students trust to work with us again. Now with this site and the Internet being what it is we won’t be attracting top talent students for a long time....

I'm not in UOP but noticed that spending for training dried up for the most part in Q3 2019, and completely after Q1. No investment in employees to grow the business, just take, take, take, even before Covid.

@bzm Career Development Program

What is the CDP program? I’m field service for Aero, not UOP/PMS. I’ve never heard of the CDP program. Maybe Aero calls it something else.

Something similar happened back in 2003/4, where they stopped doing road schools for a year or 2. It will likely be slow in Engineering for the next period of time, meaning 2-3 years after that, it will be slow for FOS. I'd expect they spin the CDP program back up within a couple years.