With my team here getting cut I have more and more work to get done. Now I’ve been told to involve the India people more. I can do one or the other but not both. I can do it with my remaining US team and know it will be okay. Or I can give it to India, wait a week and then have to redo it anyway. Which one boss?
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"And only your pants will be down for the spanking", said no one ever who learned to English as a first language. Lol.
Not racist because it’s not targeting a race. The comments are about India based employees. Indians in the US are like any other employee.
@2htj+1ubR5LD9 At the time I was laid off following your advice would get you under a PIP asap.
I had to hand off an app that I had re-engineered/converted to cloud off to an Indian team. There were 5 to 8 people I talked to. They all seemed to be working remotely in India. Could tell by the incessant car honking.
Consider the cost of training your Indian counterpart a part of the duty of quietly quitting.
This was a few years ago so it might have changed.
My suggestion is to make the company feel the pain of the layoffs. Do NOT offer training to anyone that is located in India, or relocated to the US on a Visa. Just do the work yourself at a pace in which they would do it.....so in other words if it takes you 3 hours, take 3 days because that's usually how slow they are.
This does not apply to any person from India that already resides in the US not on Visa.
True.
I’m glad I have people somewhere (wherever) that can do routineu dame stuff regularly. But if anything needs to be diagnosed, anything breaks they can’t address it. They lack the intuition and knowledge of the business. I can’t even give them a greenfield thing to investigate without holding hands every step of the way.
Unfulfilled promises.
Interesting story... in June we had 12 US team members and 12 Indian team members. The US staff was busting @$$ to do their work and hold India's hand. Mgmt was aware of this and said they'd keep an eye on it. We peons had no real expectations that things would get better.
As of last week we have 13 US teammates and 2 India teammates.
The level of work has stayed about the same but the stress level has dropped. So not a major win, but a small one.
With all these system changes & outages, I expect to see the Black Screen of Death at anytime.
non tech person here. have the identical problem with IT&V testing people. somehow they are both (1) completely clueless about the business and how audit works in the real world and (2) arrogant and bossy with us in the LOB. a remarkable combo
I have a project that involves 4 teams. 1 is us based. 3 are India. We have a consolidated defect tracker for bad code and lower environment testable work that doesn’t meet criteria. The India teams are 95% of the issues and the US team is currently using capacity to fix the defects. Off-shoring development will get you more lines of code more quickly, but just like with manufacturing, the quality of the product is absolute cheeks
No, you won't be judged based on that. We've all already been judged and found guilty of "not being in I&P / willing to work for peanuts". There's nothing you can do to appeal.
Grateful for our Indian colleagues
Don't be racist! You will be judged on how you can facilitate your Indian team. Facilitating them means involving them in all decisions and acts. Please note that if you fail your Indian people will have covered their (CTA) and only your pants will be down for the spanking.
As @1klc and @1vsp+1ubR5LD9 document everything. In the 12 + years of coding at this bank, I never saw any unit tests and I had to rewrite most of the code I touched (and we wrote the said code). So the problem with a coder at this bank is that there are no standards to begin with. I bet this will be pointed out by the offshore team when you rebut them.
IMO...
Do the best you can with screen sharing or whatever, document what you've shared and with who. Then to CYA, communicate to your manager what you have shared. Then after you've done your part, be comfortable to let them fail.
Good luck — when I had them coding on a few projects, I ended up rewriting everything they wrote because it was sooooo bad. They didn’t follow standards , no unit testing was ever done but yet they claimed it worked . Maybe I just had bad luck with the people they gave me .
Wow, I could have written this myself.