Glad I got out two months ago. When I saw they were offering packages to everyone over 65 I knew what was coming next. SAP has cost $1m per week for how much longer than anticipated? Not to mention the Rover fiasco. Good luck to all the solid... — read more 

I realize that. I was saying that the option of leaving before more layoffs come out is limited since I would owe so much.

if you get laid off your tuition reimbursement is forgiven and you don't have to pay them back.

if you get laid off your tuition reimbursement is forgiven and you don't have to pay them back.

Chosen one, can you please tell me how many manufacturing engineers were on the list but not chosen (I know 2 were chosen for the reduction already). I would jump ship, but I would owe 25k in tuition to l3. Its lame because I feel like I cant leave... — read more 

Boasting about being employed? Not at all. I have been through a layoff before. I know what it feels like. As you see, not everyone that is posting on this site is layed-off, but asking a lot of "what if" questions. Why can't someone with a... — read more 

Boasting about being employed? Not at all. I have been through a layoff before. I know what it feels like. As you see, not everyone that is posting on this site is layed-off, but asking a lot of "what if" questions. Why can't someone with a... — read more 

Boasting about being employed? Not at all. I have been through a layoff before. I know what it feels like. As you see, not everyone that is posting on this site is layed-off, but asking a lot of "what if" questions. Why can't someone with a... — read more 

Boasting about being employed? Not at all. I have been through a layoff before. I know what it feels like. As you see, not everyone that is posting on this site is layed-off, but asking a lot of "what if" questions. Why can't someone with a... — read more 

@ Anonymous: the condition of the CSW was due to the decisions of leaders. The leaders who made those decisions should be held responsible for it. Interestingly enough, you like posting on this website which was created for those to vent about being... — read more 

@ Anonymous: the condition of the CSW was due to the decisions of leaders. The leaders who made those decisions should be held responsible for it. Interestingly enough, you like posting on this website which was created for those to vent about being... — read more 

@ Anonymous: the condition of the CSW was due to the decisions of leaders. The leaders who made those decisions should be held responsible for it. Interestingly enough, you like posting on this website which was created for those to vent about being... — read more 

Yes, all of management is evil. That is what they aspire to. Come on! This wasn't easy for them either. They did what they were asked to do. Those of you on this site that believe what the "let go" people are saying are crazy. Tomorrow when there are... — read more 

@ STFU: You heard it right, big guy. Don't take your anger out on me or anyone, I've been spreading the knowledge as I LEARN it, not hype, not rumor. You're welcome, jerk! As for the "Exhibit B" document laid off employees that received sep layoff... — read more 

If it takes you that long to pay off your house your financial management skills are wacked. It took me two years to pay off my house and I saved a ton of interest.

Yes, all of management is evil. That is what they aspire to. Come on! This wasn't easy for them either. They did what they were asked to do. Those of you on this site that believe what the "let go" people are saying are crazy. Tomorrow when there are... — read more 

I am extremely happy with this outcome, I wont give the final number of my severance check but it hovers over 120K. I was with L-3 for 45 years an made over 80K a year, my home is now going to be paid off. I can buy a new car and live off my... — read more 

As I understand it, exhibit B lists the number of people who were "not selected", correct? Can someone please post those numbers for each of the job categories? Those of us who are left might be able to get a better feel for the odds of joining you... — read more 

Some of those numbers dont look right in the list of people actually let go today based on what ive seen... can anybody else confirm those numbers?

@the chosen one Shut the hell up you idiot douche. You have no idea what you're talking about. It wasn't only those who disrupted management, i had ten-year and a flawless review. I have never made waves or disrupted management and was still laid... — read more 

@ Round 2: You can get a lawyer. It appears they weaned out some of the more experienced (older) people. But they left some of the OLDEST! So, it's a toss up. Depends on the judge, jury, arguments, time, who knows. Did they give you a decent... — read more 

@CaptainObvious...sorry to say but some of the R6 folks were let go today. Good people, in fact. We're all people after all. Never made a mistake? I'm employed as well, and I shudder to think of the day when I make a mistake that costs me my job. And... — read more 

Yeah, Round 2, be careful the lawyer you get doesn't screw you out of any potential winnings. For example, you may go to court, L3 CSW offers more money to compromise, and after their fees you get pretty much or less what CSW offered in the first... — read more 

@CaptainObvious...sorry to say but some of the R6 folks were let go today. Good people, in fact. We're all people after all. Never made a mistake? I'm employed as well, and I shudder to think of the day when I make a mistake that costs me my job. And... — read more 

@Round 2: Yes, HR rep says you CAN consult a lawyer. The implication was that if you do challenge, and lose, you could lose your offered severance. You would need a REALLY good lawyer, and it would have to be obvious. You have 45 days from today to... — read more 

@Captain Obvious: You are right! Management will tell you till the last minute that everything is OK. They will tell you that the problem is external. They will spin it. As far as the Rover 6 deal that went wrong, those guys that spun that tweaked... — read more 

Are you allow to consult a lawyer prior to signing the severance package? L3 has an aging population, I am sure they are worried about age discrimination

Are you allow to consult a lawyer prior to signing the severance package? L3 has an aging population, I am sure they are worried about age discrimination

Are you allow to consult a lawyer prior to signing the severance package? L3 has an aging population, I am sure they are worried about age discrimination

This is NOT a drill, people! Read up, LEARN it, LIVE it, LOVE it!!

Managers had some beautiful speeches after the layoffs. Avoiding blame like a good csw employee. They tried to blow smoke up everyone's smoke hole and say it was about the sequester as if we can't see poor management. People responsible for R6 and... — read more 

Don't quit! If you do, you lose ALL your rights, unemployment, severance, etc.. You have to wait it out or line up other work in the meantime for a smoother transition. You will be asked to do more, change functions, times, etc... this is "manager... — read more 

For you "Second Rounders": Two schools of thought for the rest of you left. 1, if you leave now, you won't get a severance package, which will be several thousand or more dollars, depending on your base pay and time of hire. 2, if you wait for the... — read more 

Today was just bait to get people to leave by attrition over the next month or so before the do round 2. If you leave on your own they won't have to give you a severance package. The writing is on the wall. I am sure the round 2 list is already made.

Today was just bait to get people to leave by attrition over the next month or so before the do round 2. If you leave on your own they won't have to give you a severance package. The writing is on the wall. I am sure the round 2 list is already made.

@chicken neck; I don't want to release any information that can be identifiable. However, I can tell you that there are plenty of admin jobs with better agencies (i.e. state of utah) and great benefits. There is life after lay off.

Today was just bait to get people to leave by attrition over the next month or so before the do round 2. If you leave on your own they won't have to give you a severance package. The writing is on the wall. I am sure the round 2 list is already made.

@chicken neck; I don't want to release any information that can be identifiable. However, I can tell you that there are plenty of admin jobs with better agencies (i.e. state of utah) and great benefits. There is life after lay off.

Today was just bait to get people to leave by attrition over the next month or so before the do round 2. If you leave on your own they won't have to give you a severance package. The writing is on the wall. I am sure the round 2 list is already made.

@chicken neck; I don't want to release any information that can be identifiable. However, I can tell you that there are plenty of admin jobs with better agencies (i.e. state of utah) and great benefits. There is life after lay off.