Thread regarding Citrix Systems Inc. layoffs

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For those asking about the legal notification requirements, here is a link that shows the WARN requirements both federal (in the first column) and California (in the second column): http://www.edd.ca.gov/jobs_and_training/layoff_services_warn.htm

The way I read it, it only applies to sites with at least 100 full time employees that have been there at least 6 months. If they are closing a site with more than 50 employees they must give a 60 day notice. If they are laying off 50-499 employees at a single site and this number is more than 33% of the full time workforce at that site they must give 60 day notice. Finally, if they are laying off 500 or more at a single site they must give 60 day notice.

Santa Barbara isn't an office, it is a whole complex and not a small one either. They have several hundred people working out of those offices. I would suspect it is the 3rd largest site other than Ft. Lauderdale and Santa Clara. They won't definitely won't be closing that site.

It souunds like they may be getting rid of whole offices. Some news reports say they will consolidate buildings. Probably any of the smaller offices like Santa Barbara are screwed. The recent push to combine Xenapp/Xendesktop might cost us. Also we know they won't cut anyone in India so the US employees are going to get hit hard.

Is hard even tho the layoff is global still hard to be even a little positive. :(

I don't have a 100K salary either, not even 70k. But even with that said, I do have a feeling I will be leaving on wed because I am on a large team. I just hope they do it in the AM on wed.

I dont have a 100k salary just close to 70k. If i get luck on my side that means the following..

1. Will have double/triple the work i have now.

2. Quality of products will even worse now.

3. If i get close to higher salary i have to consider moving to other companies. Since this looks like is normal practice now.

The things WILL get rougher with all that talent gone, I agree with you. I second the low morale opinion, too. SAD!!!!

Posted this in another thread, and not defending the company....but I was told by someone who would know that it is a US, International, and most likely SEC law that the company must give a minimum of 1 week's notice before actually laying off employees.

My review was normal, but I have been at Citrix for over 15 years, so I feel my job is in jeopardy due to my salary. Personally, while I didn't see this coming, the company has been operating differently for some time. New internal job postings stopped starting 3rd quarter. I think less than 10 new jobs worldwide have been added since October. Over the past few years, there has been an alarming trend of cutting expenses, running with limited staff when more is needed just so they can make the numbers look better. My position is not sales related, but they have been very numbers driven lately, throwing quality out the door. Morale has been low for some time. Many, including myself, were already looking at other positions in my area.

Wes Wasson left, Daheeb left, Monserat is now leaving. It would be great if the upper level execs could actual make an acquisition, instead of buying companies like Sequioa, XenServer, Cloud, Reflectant, and a bunch of other failures that they decided to just throw away or lump into the product for free.

Not sure what the severance package would be, but as others noted, 40-45 million divided by 900 is roughly 50,000 a piece. Add in that the contractors will likely get almost nothing in reality, and there will be some higher management types that take a bigger chunk, and it could be closer to 60-75K per person, depending on the years of service. While I am nervous, if the severance package was that high, getting out with that could be a blessing. As most industry analyst have stated, this appears to be a defensive move....cutting before needed, as they expect things to get rougher ahead.

If it is salary based, I should be fine. At the same time nothing is certain. It would have been much better if we found out last week instead of waiting a whole weekend, worrying.

Thanks for the response. My review was postponed. I have a feeling my manager may be leaving as well. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Looks like the information is director level or above director level supposedly because some managers going to be gone as well. I think they are going by salary and review (evaluation ranking). Some ppl have said that their review was lowered suspiciously so that can be hint not sure.

Does anyone know which departments in operations will be hit the most? Are the VPs deciding who gets let go or do managers have an input?

Don't try to over analyze this. Just have faith. I have already run all the calcs and already started interviewing this week. Updated my resume a week ago - i felt something funny - too many higher uppers departing.

Don't believe anything anyone says - it's all a ploy to divide and conquer to keep us surprised until the very end. They satisfied wall street and met their goal.

Let's be real, unless we are all just pawns of a corporation - plain and simple.

And yes, we spend too damn much money in the stupidest places - offices, too much headcount too fast etc.

there is no evaluating of lists going on.......it is now just a matter of time until they are enacted

the arrogance that these clowns think it is perfectly acceptable to hold this over the 'citrix family' for a week is disgusting. is this what mark came back for? no doubt he and the other talking head buddies will make several more million out of executing those who have worked their guts out for this company in the name of short term financial gains.

short sighted, shallow hearted

yep, the anticipation is having its toll on people. lots of sweating bullets in Ft. L. office...

Over here still counting down the days. If anyone has feedback dont be scared to share on this site. You dont have to register or even login. :)

Sorry for the double post.

I agree with you. Theirs no point in waiting unless they are evaluating the list. Again I think would never had occurs if they instead stopped spending on nice buildings to compete with Google. Hiring so many ppl without planning in one shot. Buying so many other companies so quickly. They will never admit that themselves is the cause of this.

I agree with you. Theirs no point in waiting unless they are evaluating the list. Again I think would never had occurs if they instead stopped spending on nice buildings to compete with Google. Hiring so many ppl without planning in one shot. Buying so many other companies so quickly. They will never admit that themselves is the cause of this.

The parking lot got empty much earlier than usual yesterday (after hearing the news).

So, most people will not be doing any real work for almost a week (mindlessly staring at walls with terror in their eyes). How is THAT cost efficient?

i'm one of those who may get affected too...

...first i heard it's flattening and management. a while ago i've heard very scary phrase: "across the board". they are after cost saving, i'm sure salary will be a determining factor. but why the wait? perhaps they don't want the repeat of the same screw up from 2009 when, at least in Ft.L., the list was a political cleansing rather than a sensible selection, so perhaps the higher ups gave the order, but want to review the names before giving a go ahead. do you think a VP will fire his useless director buddies, or will go after highest paid developers.

an no, nobody is doing any work. my floor was dead silent all day... people mindlessly staring at walls with terror in their eyes.

For those of you who weren't around during the 2009 layoffs, here's some observations: 1) You'll be ok if you have an H1-B. 2) The odds are heavily against you if you are a Principal Engineer 1/2 or an architect, and to a lesser extent if you are a Senior Engineer 2 (regardless of past performance). As others have suggested below, knocking off those with large salaries is definitely in play. 3) There will be some dead wood ejected, but unfortunately, some in management will view this as an opportunity to settle some scores. 4) Check your employee handbook: they had (in 2009) the right to pay out 50% on unspent PTO. Good luck to you all.

Pretty much trying to work everyone trying to understand the event. Trying to figure if they are in the list. I don't even know my manager knows. I think the information is only for senior director and above.

Pretty much trying to work everyone trying to understand the event. Trying to figure if they are in the list. I don't even know my manager knows. I think the information is only for senior director and above.

Is anyone actually doing any work right now at Citrix?

Thanks guys, What really puts me mad is the fact they pretty sure they are going by salary and not by performance also. Of course all big companies do this i imagine.

Stay positive - you never really know which way these things go. Whatever happens, best of luck to you!

Well since im one of possible to go, hope the your theory is correct. :)

Contractors usually don't get any severance or benefits. I believe the cost of laying them off is nothing.

I do agree that the "de-layering" comments make it sound like it will be lots of management that will be let go and they do tend to be higher earners. I would also guess that accrued PTO is included in the cost which can be quite a bit for CA employees as they can accumulate 1.5 times yearly number of PTO days. That could add up to a couple of months of salary per employee.

You forgot about 200 contractors and also the managers directors or even VP that i think they receive little more than 64k. :( Anyone have any news what dept are getting hit more ?

$45M for severance packages divided by 700 full timers... $64K per person. Sound off to you?

At a SaaS Cloud Communication Group (GoToMeeting/Webinar/Training) meeting this morning, management claiming that the group is growing and they are still hiring.

Official word is 700 regular employees will be let go. No indication as to which departments if any will be hit harder.

Why no posts on this site, hundreds of views but no posts

I hear that most contractors will be let go. Also, I hear that there will be a hiring freeze. I also heard that the number of employees to be let go will go over 1000, this is not including contractors and positions that will not be filled.