Thread regarding Corinthian Colleges Inc. layoffs

CCI Still taking advantage of students.

I recently had a student placed in my IT class who has severe learning disabilities. Student can not learn from reading and must be read to or everything provided to her in a digital form so the student can use it at home with her software that reads it to her. Also the student is to be given 1.5 times to 2 times to turn in work and for exams. It's only been one week and other students are starting to get very frustrated with the student since in the course of 2 days the student still asks about the syllabus and cannot understand week 1's assignment which is nothing more than read chapter 1. I've been interrupted in class at least 8 times each day to explain this to her. There is no way this student can ever get a job in IT with this kind of learning disability. I asked the student why they took IT and the student was told it would be the right career choice for the student by admissions. This is clearly a blatant example of taking advantage of a student. I brought this up to Academics and I got the impression they agree with me but their hands are tied.

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Post ID: @OP+yecLV97

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One-on-one time is all well and good if you have the opportunity to do so. If you teach the kinds of students online like OP mentions, it's nearly impossible. I have had countless students who don't know own what the word "upload" or "sumbission" means, or still can't comprehend that Google isn't a source. They can't read their assignments, let alone turn them in. I have had students who in a normal school would need to be places into ESL classes, but since ECP doesnt have them, these students just struggle and struggle and fail. Helping someone who is struggling in their native language is not the same as someone who hasn't yet mastered English. No one here has a TESL degree, and to force these students (and students with disabilities, since I'm sure no one has a Special Ed degree either) is unfair and reprehensible. They deserve better than that.

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Post ID: @3ilg+yecLV97

We all face these challenges as instructors. I think the financial aid system here is to blame. Imagine if the Cowboys took all possible players as long as we took out loans to join. We would be promised Romo's job, as long as we "passed" some tests. I could then get 10 times longer to complete the training camp drills. The whole deal seems dishonest. Students are using loan money to pay for their everyday expenses, and because they are of lower socioeconomic status, they have no idea of consequences. They just see it as the next "hustle."

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Post ID: @2y9w+yecLV97

694 - If Heald and Wyo were "doing quite well" then why did they sell to CCI? I suspect they were doing ok academically, but struggling financially. No disagreement that CCI has reduced the quality of the education experience.

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Post ID: @2PyC+yecLV97

It's a shame that Heald and WyoTech got dragged into this mess of Corinthian Colleges. We were both doing quite well and doing things honestly before CCi came along. The executives wanted all the schools to be like Everest and that was the beginning of the end for us. If you read all the law suites and allegations they are all directed at Everest campuses and Everest Online. The Everest brand is what caused this entire mess with their lying, cheating and fake degrees.

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Post ID: @13FQ+yecLV97

Teaching 'tard 101 here.

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Post ID: @1q2L+yecLV97

It is at Heald and I've tried one on one time with the student. Each time it is as if I never did have the chat with the student. My one on one time is limited to since I have 4 classes that each have about 25 to 28 students in them and a lot of others are struggling too.

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Post ID: @1ds4+yecLV97

The student sounds a perfect candidate to not work IT , but manage it! I understand there are some IT management positions open at CSC!

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Post ID: @6KI+yecLV97

sounds like the perfect candidate for a program change after hitting SAP in their current program!

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Post ID: @SZp+yecLV97

I agree this is a bad situation all around, the student should not be denied an education because of a disability it is their right. If not Everest they will just go to another for profit. Either way this student is going to have a rough time getting an education but it's admirable they are trying. You didn't mention any one on one time you have had with this student, take a few mins. To help them instead of rant on here about what you have no control over. I think it's great you're thinking of their financial future but since you can't do anything about it, do your best to help them succeed in the course.

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Post ID: @RBE+yecLV97

578, wrong. There are still some IT programs: WyoTech Long Beach, a few Florida Everests, and evening programs at Heald.

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Post ID: @Uq6+yecLV97

What IT class troll? There are no IT classes you f...ing troll. This is a layoff site not a troll site.

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Post ID: @Q5C+yecLV97

This is a re-hashed post from months and months ago.

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Post ID: @Gkw+yecLV97

Heald had a mentally disabled student in its medical assisting program back in 2011.

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Post ID: @eL2+yecLV97

Either admissions noticed the student mentioning interests relating to IT, or admissions threw a dart at a list of careers. I guess either scenario is possible. I am thinking the student mentioned her computer a lot during the interview.

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Post ID: @kdD+yecLV97

Rather than helping these students transition to another program or school where they might succeed, the student OP has described is viewed by CCi as a cash cow. They fail and retake the classes and "repack" their loans. Then they appeal their academic status, are denied, and are routed directly to re entry. Where we get more tuition and interest from them. I feel your pain, OP. It is heartbreaking.

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Post ID: @1T1+yecLV97

Once again, profit triumphs over principle.

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Post ID: @eXU+yecLV97

Sounds like a difficult situation and you're trying to handle it responsibly. Sounds like the student wants to learn, but has large obstacles in the way. If the school can't decide that someone is incapable of taking a class and reassign her on those grounds. The only option is to inevitably fail her or look for any hidden strengths she has, which aren't immediately apparent. Sounds like a difficult situation. Good luck.

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