Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

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Cloud and On Prem will be separate orgs. There will continue to be at least two sales reps calling into every account, one saying to buy on prem licenses, and the other saying to buy cloud, each undermining the other. The "ISV" comment means that Oracle is unhappy with its direct sales force (or feel that sales reps are too expensive) and will try to get partners to sell more. This strategy usually fails for large enterprise companies. "Option penetration" means that customers are not buying enough of the expensive database options like RAC, partitioning, advanced security, etc. The "ULA" comment means that customers are no longer buying long-term unlimited license agreements but are just doing support renewals and individual licenses for old systems. All of this indicates that customers are moving away from Oracle products and are not starting new Oracle projects.

Since RG is being put in charge of the Cloud sales org, this is a major demotion for him, Oracle cloud is not, and never will be, even close to competitive with AWS or Google. The history of Oracle cloud is:

1) Deny that Cloud is important (2009-2014);

2) Buy a hardware company (Sun), get rid of its Cloud product, focus on hardware development (2009);

3) Oh that didn't work, lay off Sun people, try to compete against VMWare by acquiring a start-up, Nimbula (2013);

4) Oh that didn't work, so try to build a public Cloud with Nimbula/OpenStack on a shoestring budget and leased data centers from Equinix (2014-2016);

5) Oh that didn't work or scale, so buy some more people in Seattle and try Gen 2 cloud, again on a shoestring budget, hoping "bare metal" will get customers to buy all that expensive hardware (2016-2019);

6) Oh that didn't work either, do another re-org, layoff Gen 2 people, now see if partners call sell this mess.

not my post, it deserves a thread tho, kudos op

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How lame. The year end earning must be atrocious which is why this is announced well before the earnings. It will be touted as oracle’s pivot that will establish it as the leader in the cloud and the analysts are just stupid enough to probably buy it. The reality, however, is that Oracle is now a cloud commodity DB provided and that’s all it is. Price erosion here we come. Sell, sell, sell !

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Post ID: @kjk+ZpD7jir

7) partner with Microsoft so can claim working Cloud (Azure) and try to keep database business viable. Announce this before Q4 earnings become public because otherwise may run out of stock buyback money.

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Post ID: @qdk+ZpD7jir

Let me summarize:

laid off, blah, bitter, blah, blah, end of oracle, blah

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Post ID: @avb+ZpD7jir

This is not how you disrupt anything.

Oracle isn’t leading the way to anything.

Not truly investing fully in these initiatives means they will always look like the cheapass option provided by one of the most despised tech companies in the world.

The Database market is very mature, with lots of non-Oracle options that don’t include audits that resemble a colonoscopy, vendor lock-in, multiple overlapping sales functions,etc.

The executive team is old, out of ideas, devoid of true leadership and solely focused on preserving their capital. A through housecleaning is long overdue there, and maybe inevitable if only to show customers a new face and try to convince the market that Oracle will change.

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