Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

So.....employees are important?

This year the message from auto company management in Corporate seems to be, "employees have always been important". If correct, why were 13,000 employees let go last year? Why are 6 offices closing on August 31, 2019? Which is it? Do employees matter or not?

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Post ID: @OP+YnPFG91

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Nice try responding to yourself.

For the record, if you'd have actually read the content of the OP rather than just the headline, you'd know why your comment was irrelevant.

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Post ID: @atzt+YnPFG91

@9zum. It looks like you offended the thought police by talking about the importance of employees in a thread called So....employees are important? Hang in there.

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Post ID: @auco+YnPFG91

Someone needs to Make State Farm Great Again

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Post ID: @airt+YnPFG91

@9zum

More strawmen. I don't think there is a single thought in either of your posts that reasonably addresses anything in the posts of mine you were responding to. You literally made up your own arguments, presumably so you could argue with yourself.

Let me help you:

1) I do not have an anti-company agenda. I am an employee and would like the company to do well.

2) I never said I thought you had a pro-company agenda.

3) The "reality" you stated had nothing to do with the OP or this thread. Everyone knows that it's not a company's job to employ people for life irrespective of the company's financial goals.

I could go on, but why? You clearly don't need any help to carry on with your inane arguments. Just keep on arguing with yourself.

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Post ID: @aghs+YnPFG91

@9yet—Stop assuming that because you have an anti Company agenda, I must have a pro Company agenda. I simply pointed out reality. The general tone here is that the Company has some moral obligation to keep everybody fully employed under terms the employees like. While that would be nice for the employees, it never has been and never will be true. My position is also going to disappear or be transformed into something totally different. Either way, I’ll be gone. But I’ve had a long run and I’ll be OK because I am fully capable of being OK on my own.

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Post ID: @9zum+YnPFG91

To the previous poster: Nice straw man. I've yet to see anyone claim that a company is obligated to provide life-long employment for anyone.

Winning arguments that you invented out of whole cloth must feel very gratifying.

What's at issue here is the HR oriented lie that the company cares about us as human beings, while it's every day actions show it does not. Simple as that. Whether you know it or not, your statement actually acknowledges that the company only cares about its employees as commodities. Well if that's the case, perhaps they could dispense with the nonsense claims otherwise.

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Post ID: @9yet+YnPFG91

Employees are important to any enterprise, to the degree that they help the enterprise achieve its purpose. But that purpose is not to provide guaranteed employment in perpetuity.

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Post ID: @8nxt+YnPFG91

Ageism is what it is in many places. I was in a small department and they wanted to eliminate 6 of 12 positions. Just so happened that there were 6 of us over 50 and 6 of us under 45.

They didn't even keep one of the older workers at their current position for some sort of cover. 3 of the 6 over 50 were let go, the other 3 demoted, one demoted 2 positions. The 6 under 45 all keep their position, except for one in their early 30's who was promoted.

What they fail to realize is even the folks in their 30's now realize this is not a long-term employer, SF will cut you once you are no longer young and with a lower salary.

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Post ID: @2rym+YnPFG91

Hopefully State Farm gets hit like IBM with blatant ageism

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Post ID: @1fbq+YnPFG91

Skilled labor is not cheap. Cheap labor is not skilled. Corporate refuses to accept this. That is why we are failing.

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Post ID: @jbq+YnPFG91

They are hiring like crazy because the turnover is unsustainable. If Corporate makes videos saying employees have always been important, which employees are they referring to? The less-expensive new hires who have no dedication and quit before they ever really learn how to do the job, or the more-expensive tenured employees who keep the operation moving forward?

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Post ID: @mdl+YnPFG91

You know the company is hiring like crazy because people are leaving like crazy?

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Post ID: @jyl+YnPFG91

Here’s the reality that we see in Agency every day. Customers still want the same service they’ve always had from State Farm.......but they will not pay more for it these days. I know they don’t really think it through. There’s no mystery army of volunteers sitting in donated facilities who’s going to provide it. In many ways, it’s similar to the way our whole society rails on WalMart for destroying the American retail workforce—while we shop at WalMart because it’s cheaper.

State Farm absolutely has to change the way it does things, or it will cease to exist. We can lament the lost jobs and cushy benefits all we want, but the reality is that they’re gone because the customer will no longer pay their cost. Agency is semi intact right now, only because somebody has to try to smooth this over for the customer. Once the rest of the transition is pretty much set, we too will either be gone, or operating agencies that look nothing like what we’ve been used to.

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Post ID: @uju+YnPFG91

you know the company is thriving and hiring like crazy....right?

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Post ID: @haa+YnPFG91

Tippy and the board are so full of feces

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Post ID: @uve+YnPFG91

Remember that they "care deeply"

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