Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

If any one part of the OCI team is looking for a full-time job in the Bay Area, JFrog is hiring (senior dev, dev). I did work for Oracle for more than 5 years in the past and it's hard to see the current state. DM me on twitter @ankushchadha111 if interested. Thanks.

I was in OCI product management, our whole team got whacked.

AWS is by far and away the leader because they have the depth and breadth of services. No one else can compare. Microsoft is great If you are a windows shop. But if you are a Linux/Unix shop Microsoft is not an intuitive fit. I work for a major financial institution and we are moving heavily to AWS.

The fact that everyone only references amazon shows you lack the understanding of landscape. Aws is not the leader and will fall behindin next 3 years... google takes the swan song but looks like g+. Now azure is revenue leader by far.. ibm strong armed customer base .. damn even accenture got market share.. so ms/ibm/oracle got 45billion revenue combined.. if you add salesforce its almost 60 bil.. but still everyone touts aws

It’s not going to happen. Oracle is so far behind in cloud. Companies are not going to move to OCI to run oracle applications.

Autonomous database might be great but it’s irrelevant today. More and more companies are moving away from relational databases and those that aren’t will get their rdb as a service from Amazon.

“”Agreed that the infra on the "new" OCI is good””

Are you f---ing crazy or Don Johnson??

Agreed that the infra on the "new" OCI is good, but the maturity will take time. Moving the money generating cloud apps onto newer infra and deployment stacks brings existing customers to the cloud, and maybe over time you can have a compelling story to draw in outside developers. But that's going to take a long time, and if the "big 3" stop making sh--ty decisions.

OCI will simply burn the money database team is bringing in. It’s high time for 3 stooges to realize OCI is full of c-ap and make their software (while still good) available on good clouds (aka aws, Azure, google, etc.)

OCI should not be affected, unless you just moved to OCI as part of the OCI-C re-org. A lot of people blame the OCI team and leadership for the changes apparently. Its okay to be upset and needing to blame someone, but taken objectively, Oracle is doing what any company would do. Cut the products that have poor ROI and focus on new ideas, or products that have track record. Of course it s---s to be in that position, but I'd bet it would happen sooner in other companies.

A bunch of people here still think the cloud is a fad and cant seem to understand that the world has moved on. If you are one of them, understand that that our industry changes quickly and that means we have to as well. If you on the other hand are really up with the times, you should not find it hard to score a better job.

From a technical/architectural perspective OCI is good. The problem is that it’s too little too late. Oracle is so far behind amazon in terms of scale, breadth of offering etc. that there is no way to catch up. On top of that oracle has been investing billions in stock buybacks instead of datacenters.

I really don’t see how oracle can survive in the cloud space.

Is googling by Oracle?

oracle should not give up on its cloud efforts. that would be s---c-de. it should find some focus. maybe OCI is that focus. Is OCI really a pile of manure? Was OCI-C any better? If we are doing Apps as SaaS, they need to run on something. We clearly are committed to DBaaS (PaaS) and that needs infrastructure to run on as well. We probably should have pinned down our own architecture for serving DB and Apps before offering IaaS just to ensure that our own stuff ran properly. Once we had a bulletproof infrastructre on which our we ran our PaaS and SaaS then offer IaaS. We are just trying to do too much at once in an unforgiving environment that already hates Oracle. Mistakes will be made and normally thats ok. However, when your leaders act like jerks and claim they are the best and strut around like pigeons on a chess board, and then can't deliver, that magnifies the mistakes into unacceptable failures. We seem to have built an extremely atypical (for Oracle) organization in Seattle (our new HQ someday?) that has been given the responsibility of saving the Oracle cloud. Can someone provide legit architectural details of why OCI is not better than OCI-C or just point to internal or external details or analysis? I continue to hope that Oracle can turn itself around and become a leader in tech again and not some financial engineering, sales heavy company, reliant on acquisitions for growth and what is being done in certain areas is so far off the standard playbook, that it might work. What has been done to this company in the past ~15 years (give or take a few) that turned it into the slug that it is will take time to undo.

yes, mostly in the classic. but oracle will not give up on the cloud. they are playing catchup and will continue to grow and shrink resources. this endeavor is not with precison, mostly trial and error. they have lots of money.

There were over 2000 views of an OCI layoff topic a week or so ago. That also says a lot, I think.