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There is life and money after Oracle

I've left Oracle after 17 years working as a tech sales consultant. I'll give you my perspective on it (the TL;DR version is: I wish I had left way earlier than I did).

  • Oracle technology is incredibly outdated. It was only after I moved to another tech company that I realized how far behind I was... Oracle tech revolves so much around Oracle DB , ADF and Weblogic that it simply ignores modern frameworks. Even the PaaS stuff (the parts that are not ADF-based) use Javascript in a way to mimic the old development mentality. Unless you're leaving to work exclusively with Oracle technology, you'll have to accept the fact that you have a whole lot to learn...

  • The company I moved to actually has a good software that can actually help customers. I have to say I was shocked, after spending my last 2 years at Oracle basically trying to push PaaS to whatever customer happened to cross my way. This is, in fact, the reason why I finally decided to leave: at some point I asked myself "if I sell this product to this customer, will I be solving their problems, or mine?"

  • There is such thing as recognition for a job well done. There is such thing as a manager that says "my job here is to make you successful" and actually mean it. Another shock.

  • When I was interviewing, I told them how much I made at Oracle (in my best recent year) and they actually said "we'll be able to cover that easily".

  • The 2 prospect questions I dreaded the most back at Oracle were: "who else is using this product" and "we want to install it here and do a quick test". In my new job, we're compelled to offer trials and reference visits. And we actually have happy customers (yet another shock). We still have a quota, yes, but our activities are not driven by the forecast or a desperate need to sell anything to anyone.

  • The Oracle name is still very well known (not necessarily liked, though). Back then, I could call any company and say "Hi, I'm from Oracle" and they would at least take my call. In my new job, learning how to create awareness was an interesting challenge.

  • There is life and money after Oracle. You'll notice how different the real world is from the competitive presentations you've heard from Oracle PMs. Out here, everyone uses Azure, or AWS. When they talk about Oracle, it's either legacy (DB), SaaS, or something they're trying to get away from. I've only met 1 customer who is using a non-SaaS Oracle Cloud product, and they're not happy (needless to say, it was pushed to them as part of a SaaS deal).

I miss some of my colleagues back at Oracle. I definitely don't miss the predatory sales tactics or some of the vulture sales reps I had to work with. It's a good feeling when you're trying to solve your customer's problems, and they acknowledge that.

Hope it helps.

Thought that this post from @XiQL7IF-1gni was a realistic observation of how Oracle is behind the competition in some segments.

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I was in pre-sales in a high growth center and left. There is definitely life and money after Oracle.

  • I have a real manager, not a guardian with zero credibility almost an impostor.

  • I work with far better technologies. I don't have to pretend anymore that I sell a solution.

  • I enjoy going to work. It is still shocking to get used to this!

  • I miss just some nice colleagues from O.

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