getting canned and trying to obtain another job is very difficult in this market. i took the involuntary offer and made my transition somewhat easy. told my new employer about AT&T's lack of investment and basically a dying company...and not much excitement.
this involuntary surplus is the same as being fired. that's what new employers see. i think the last involuntary offer saw so many leave willing that mgmt couldn't take the chance and wanted to be in control.
In this day and age, if you haven’t been laid off a couple times at different companies, then you are unique. It’s not just bad people that get let go. Often times the company you work for gets bought out, jobs get consolidated, companies run into financial issues, etc... happens all the time. Even at T, I’m sure we all know people that got surplused that make you scratch your head as to why.
Also depends on your job. If you’re in IT or web work, it’s like the changing of the seasons. Projects come and go, so do the people with it.
if you have entered the interview process...you SHOULD know, one of the questions is are you still actively employed with the current employer....and then if not...why? i'll guarantee HR for any company will investigate and do DD. if you lie...they will find out.
How about just being honest? They may or find out, so why poison that?
I'd rather hire someone who got surplussed than a liar.
You can look at it any which way.
If you tell them you left because you got bored maybe they think you'll do the same to them after the honeymoon period wears off. Or maybe they think you're motivated and like pushing forward full speed ahead.
If you tell them you got surplussed maybe they think you're a c-appy employee. Or maybe they think you're dedicated but realize that companies make broad choices that impact good people due to things outside of their control like shuttering work locations due to geography.
Sorry - but if you're a good candidate for a new job, your potential new employer isn't going to spend much effort to find out the REAL reason you left. You act like its some big plot against employees for employers to find a reason to NOT hire someone for a position they posted.
If you tell me you left because it got stagnant or something else that millions of people quit for on a daily basis, why would I ask HR to begin a deep searching crusade to find the truth?
Your logic is not very good.
not tell them you were part of a surplus or fired...right, like the next human resources employer won't know. give me a break. it's easy to determine. wishful thinking
It doesn’t really matter.
I'm guessing dead man's float is to basically do the bare minimum to keep from getting fired, so that you're deemed worthy of being surplussed! :)
What is dead man's float in this context?
Why would you tell them you were surplussed? They can't call and find out WHY you left the company, they can only find your employment dates. Just tell them you were ready for a change and there was a lack of growth.
deadman's float - LOL
If you want to go and they don't pick you, then you do the dead man's float until for six months and quit, or until the next round of layoffs (whichever comes first). They can waste some of your time, but if you really want it you can get your six months.
Bue bye and to the unemyment office
meant voluntary offer...