Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Legal Question/Statement

75 people laid off in BXB on 11/5. A few days later reqs for those same positions are opened in the same BU indicating 'multiple locations' but excluding BXB. A few of the 75 are hired back into their positions with the stipulation of being relocated to texas at some point (no time given).

There is no indication when the move will be to texas, and the remaining employees are told they can simply work from home as they like.

So we 70 laid off sign the paperwork waiving lawsuits. Is there ANY recourse should all those newly opened reqs get filled in BXB with statement of moving to texas whenever, and result in never being moved to texas? Cisco basically has gotten away with laying off a large block of people (may 'older'), hiring replacements in BXB with open ended option to move to Texas.

Isn't that breaking the law? And wouldn't you think they could be pursued despite the signing of that waiver? (there must be a loop hole).

Such blatant illegal behavior can't continue... something must be done.

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Post ID: @OP+WuxKiUA

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In the US one aspect of the definition of role is location. It is very hard to prove that people will never be relocated especially when there is explicit paperwork saying it is a job requirement. Personally I would jump at the opportunity to relocate from cold expensive BXB to warm, no state tax TX especially if Cisco was paying for it. Get there start looking for a new job while still being employed in an area where the tech industry is growing by leaps and bounds.

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Post ID: @3gzg+WuxKiUA

goal is to close boxboro campus in two years. Security is only bu growing and likely will be impacted within two years as well

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Post ID: @1jxz+WuxKiUA

Hard to feel sorry for bxb'ers whose only job for 9 - 20 years has been with mother cisco.

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Post ID: @1fmy+WuxKiUA

Wonder how good the retention package is, assuming there is one

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Post ID: @1pmj+WuxKiUA

It’s mildly interesting, but I’m going to take the money and not walk, but run. Can’t wait to start fresh somewhere new and put Cisco behind me (excluding all the great people I worked with). Not knowing all the legal costs that that option might entail only affirms my decision, but then that’s exactly what Cisco wants is someone like me to just sign.

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Post ID: @1jat+WuxKiUA

IBM has done the same thing and apparently got hit by a massive lawsuit. But Cisco is known for doing their homework to avoid such things.

The idea is to let go of older and more expensive employees - who tend to live in the suburbs - and then hire younger people who will be paid less and who like to live in the big centers and afford them by sharing their houses/apartments with others.

I have heard also that the EVP's have been talking about needing "new blood" and hiring people from outside. That has always been Cisco's R&D strategy and it's now their talent strategy as well.

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Post ID: @1ivd+WuxKiUA

Perhaps some of the others who may have a harder time finding a new job of equal or higher level will challenge it. I plan on signing, but it seems like there is always a way to sue later (esp. in america the land of lawsuits)

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Post ID: @sjo+WuxKiUA

It wouldn’t be the first time this has happened.

I have no idea about the law in the USA but, in other countries, the law is that the role is made redundant, not the person.

If that is the case here then your only option would be to not sign the waiver and then to claim for wrongful/constructive dismissal.

As I said, I saw this happen to a couple of G12s about two years ago. In the end, they were offered an enhanced settlement and decided to take the package because both found roles to go to.

Ironically, Cisco asked one of them to come back a year later. He refused.

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