Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

IPF and LR

Is it true that a high IPF makes it harder to get on LR list?

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Post ID: @OP+VuTy6oO

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No correllation. My IPF was 1.55 and I was let go.

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Post ID: @gjrr+VuTy6oO

Yes, still going to campus job fairs at top universities and trying to hire locals.

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Post ID: @9xso+VuTy6oO

what kind of people are they hiring at entry level in SJC ? are they still going to campus job fairs at top universities and able to hire "locals" or totally dependent on MS grads from a certain south asian country?

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Post ID: @9phm+VuTy6oO

Cisco is very clever in LR. They mix both old and young employees, employees with good IPF and low IPF ask that they don’t get sued.

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Post ID: @9val+VuTy6oO

@VuTy6oO-nlf you are confusing cause and effect and also massively misinformed at the legal requirements for a layoff.

They make the determination of who they are going to layoff.

They then give a lower IPF to those people to have more money to give to the people who are not being laid off increasing the chances they will stay.

You cannot lay someone off for poor performance. You can fire someone for poor performance, but that needs to be documented if you don't want a law suit.

To lay someone off you must make the case that their position was eliminated. This means that the role no longer exists. It cannot legally be based on performance. They only way that performance can come in is if multiple of the exact same position exist. Then you can make the case on who was chosen based on their impact to the business.

Cisco gets around the not get into trouble for laying off older workers problem even more nefariously. What they do is they define the pool of affected workers broadly enough. Then they make sure that there is an almost exact match of under 40 and over 40 workers laid off compared to the composition of the defined pool. Then they open "new" positions for lower grade levels that they let the under 40 workers who were impacted know that they can apply for these "new" positions. Most will take the "new" position. End result is that most of the people that leave are in the over 40 group.

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Post ID: @4wez+VuTy6oO

you got it right @VuTy6oO-nlf

with no recorded review system now, its a free for all.

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Post ID: @1qpr+VuTy6oO

Cisco is using IPF as the excuse to layoff. There is no accountability in the way IPF is assigned, so they give low values to the people they want to lay off, and then can lay them off 'for poor performance', avoiding one of the legal issues for laying off excessive numbers of older people

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