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A useful tip when signing the redundancy document?

Thinking about someone who posted earlier here saying they wished their partner gets the boot now as the packages later will be less. They will always pay the obsolute legal minimum (as they can't take any risk) everywhere. If you manage to get more this is up to you. The best advice I received is when you sign the redundancy document you make a note 'without legal advice'. That means you have at least a month to consult a legal person to contest the offer if you wish. When it happened to me I refused to sign anything and I left the office. I served 25 years and was thrown out like a sick dog just before Xmas on 23rd dec. It is not what they did but the way they did it that broke my heart. As a Manager I knew the script as i had to make far too many people redundant. You have to read a HR prepared statement. I started everyday so stressed and upset I ended up vomiting. So imagine how I felt when they quoted the script back to me verbatim.

This was posted on a different thread ( @VBRROG6-ahf ). Can someone confirm if the part about the possibility of making a note “without legal advice” while signing a redundancy document is true, and does that give you the possibility to contest the offer?

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Reminds me of the episode in Better Call Saul where Jimmy argues with his corrections officer over only getting 30 minutes of credit towards his community service because he was too busy chatting on the phone instead of picking up trash. To which the corrections officer tells Jimmy, "We could make it zero." Meaning...take a good opportunity now. Don't argue over it and don't wait forever. It might be gone by then.

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About the post, "This was posted on a different thread ( @VBRROG6-ahf ). Can someone confirm if the part about the possibility of making a note “without legal advice” while signing a redundancy document is true, and does that give you the possibility to contest the offer?"

I highly doubt this works in the US. The purpose of signing the offer is to settle any differences between you and the company, and the funds paid under the offer is that settlement. In the US, you need legal advice first before you sign and receive funds. Be prepared to pay for that advice. In those states that are employer-friendly, have fun finding an attorney who handles the employee claim side.

Really, the company has a lot of lawyers inside and out. You would have to have a really good claim that is clearly documented, and doesn't rely on coworker testimony because coworkers will be torn between supporting you in your claim, and either continuing to be employed, or finding new jobs themselves. Sure they may agree with whatever negative thing happened to you, but testifying to that even is a different story.

All companies know it takes a lot of energy and resources for an individual employee to pursue the vast majority of claims. The reason that companies offer severance packages is, even if the company is successful in settling these claims, it still costs them money and time to do so. A settlement is a good deal for them, and the company sees it as a good deal for you. Don't waste your time and energy trying to convince your HR rep otherwise. He/she has no control or decision-making authority in this.

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Quote "They will always pay the obsolute legal minimum (as they can't take any risk) everywhere. "

In CH that is zero, except for 1 month notice

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Post ID: @zzg+VDu1fJI

In the uk they (TR) funded £500 to pay for legal advice prior to signing document.

The union recommended a lawyer.

At the end of the day all he did was read through the document and ask if I had questions on each section after he read it. The whole process took 20 minutes over the phone.

The legal firm then billed TR for the £500.

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Post ID: @krc+VDu1fJI

You might want to check jurisdiction here as I am sure it changes around the world.

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