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The End of the Road - Quitting Sam's Club: My Advice to Those Who Want to be Team Leaders and Move Up

After 4 years, 4 months, and 14 days with Sam's Club, I am happy to part ways with the company.

Today is my last day.

I contemplated calling out, but I decided against it. I haven't called out in 3 years. And in all the time I've been with the company, I only called out twice. After all, today is my last day as the Team Leader of the Electronics Department.

I was only TL for a brief period of 7 months, but I worked like one since I started in the department 2 years ago. And my advice to all those who want to be Team Leaders and move up within the company is simple: take the position.

But only temporary.

Work hard, maintain a good attitude, accrue as much experience as you can, and leave with your head held high. The moment you feel burnt out is the moment you need to leave because this company will eat you alive.

As a TL on the sales floor, you have to be extremely flexible with your schedule. If a TL or a forklift driver on Overnight goes on vacation or calls out, be prepared to come in on short notice. And you are obligated to say "yes." After all, it's written in the job description: "work overnight WHEN needed." A manager once called me at 2 PM on my day off and asked me to come in at 9:30 PM that night to cover a shift. In the event that you say no, be prepared for retaliation. And I'll speak on that part later.

You also need to communicate with your manager to change your schedule in accordance to your monthly audits. And be prepared to do a lot of audits. The audit team was eliminated, so the burden of the task will fall on your shoulders. For certain categories like 3 (Office Supplies), you will have to come in at midnight to conduct. If you work in a high traffic Club, you will have a very hard time with your count; you have to count every single packages of pencils, pens, erasers, paper, etc. And you have to count them all correctly. Dishonestly adjusting the audit for the sake of lowering shrink is a coachable offense.

But in the event that the shrink result is high and you've exhausted all of your options, be prepared to have an answer for everything when you submit your audit. The last thing your Club Manager wants to hear is "I don't know" when they ask you why the shrink is so high. That means you'll have to spend a lot of time behind a computer screen and conduct your research through WPIQ to look for discrepancies.

Every month, Home Office sends out a series of audits that are due by the 15th of that month, and it is nonnegotiable. Failure to complete those required audits on time will result in accountability. In addition to the required audits are the additional audits from your Club Manager that are due at the end of the month. Those are also not optional; they range from simple item audits to complete category audits, which you have to plan accordingly.

Fresh Team Leaders also have to conduct their own audits on a weekly basis. They often have to count Fresh merchandise that isn't part of their department, which requires them to drop and pull pallets out of the freezers.

As a TL of Electronics, it was an incredibly difficult task to plan out my schedule at the beginning of every month. I couldn't come in when I needed to because the Club always have to have an opening TL and a closing TL on the sales floor. Furthermore, we have a shortage of forklift drivers in our building. If I'm the only TL in the evening and Members needed items dropped from steel, I'd have to forgo my current priorities and assist our Members.

If you're forklift certified and want to become Team Lead on the sales floor, you will be pulled left and right. And about 70% of all those extra tasks will have nothing to do with your own department.

I spent more time in Hardlines, Seasonal, and Receiving than I did in my area. My manager once confronted me about the condition of my department and told me that I needed to delegate all of the Electronics tasks to my "team," which at the time consisted of two part timers who were new to the department. Since Wireless/Connections was eliminated and outsourced, I was severely understaffed. In addition to assisting Members on the floor and conducting my monthly audits, I had to squeeze out whatever little extra time I had to train my associates, which meant I had to forgo both of my breaks.

If you want to be Team Lead and take your job seriously and complete your tasks on time, be prepared to work through your breaks. Managers do not want to hear why you couldn't finish your assignments, but they also do not want to hear that you are not taking your breaks. I know a couple of TL in my building who, in addition to not taking their breaks, would punch out for lunch and go back to work.

As a Team Lead, you will often hear your managers tell you to "get it done, no matter what it takes." After reading through copious amount of posts on this website, I am confirmed that this sort of managerial mentality is pervasive throughout the company. The harder you work, the more they expect out of you.

With the current "unused PTO" system--where you can essentially accrue over 1000 "unused" PTO hours and not receive a dime out of that bucket unless you quit or are terminated--associates are calling out more frequently than ever. Overnight and Cafe at my club, for example, are notorious for frequent call-outs as they both average 2 a day. So as a Lead, be prepared to work the job of 3 people because your associates don't want to come to work. I have an associate in Photos, which is also part of my department, who'd call out because she had a little cough. And when Photos calls out, the entire Electronics department suffers because my associates and I would have to throw all of our plans out the window to take care of the Members.

The toxic work culture at Sam's Club therefore punishes people who are hard workers yet rewards those who are, for a lack of a better word, imbeciles. Team Leaders are essentially yes-men juniors. We do whatever that is required of us, and we can't say no. Doing so would mean having our days-off requests rejected or future promotions disregarded.

Retaliation from managers is surreptitious and more prevalent than you'd imagine. The CBL on workplace retaliation that we all had to take is there to protect the company not the associates. Anyone who decides to speak up about the errors within the work environment is destined to be overlooked when the opportunity for promotion arises. Ironically, however, management encourages associates to "speak up." But do so at your own discretion.

I can't speak for all the clubs out there, but I can assure you that high-traffic clubs like mine all share similar attributes: toxic work environment, low staff morale due to management, and high stress-inducive. As a Team Lead, your stress level will quadruple. You might start to experience health issues that you've never had before. And if you already have some sort of ailments, your condition will definitely worsen.

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Post ID: @OP+VC5Yuxl

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Sam's club don't respect the two weeks notice.they take off schedule after a day of giving them the note which it's not fare.

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Post ID: @wgspg+VC5Yuxl

As a college student who’s worked at Sams for 2 months, I honestly think it’s my time to go. We are low on staff, and my manager doubles job tasks on me that doesn’t even fit in my description. My health issues have definitely worsen in the past week, and I have taken some time off. But with that being sad, I just don’t want to return to the job. Store 4917 it was fun while it lasted, but treating your employees with respect should be #1 priority.

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Post ID: @glbqc+VC5Yuxl

tl;dr

No body have no time to read all that babble OP. Take your manifesto and put it where the sun does not shine.

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Post ID: @3ultk+VC5Yuxl

I know it's an old post, but good luck...

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Post ID: @3uurw+VC5Yuxl

Not all Club Managers are like the ones that you described. I have been fortunate to have had a manager that cares about her associates. When I started with the Company, she said that my education (college) came first. Stay in school, keep your grades up or I will cut your hours and get out of retail. I thought she was kidding at first, but the more I worked, became forklift driver, moving to Fresh area, I realized that this company was going in a different direction than Mr. Sam intended with his set of Core Values. It was once described as twenty somethings being put in charge of dads' company, thinking they could run it better than the old man. Mr. Sam believed in having associates in every department from the time the doors opened to the time the doors closed. Sam's need to be a trend leader, get back to customer service, don't waste time, talent and money trying to catch up to Costco, Amazon and the rest. I finished school and got out. Gisel Ruiz and John Furner no longer support the core values, they put pressure on MM to produce budgeted profit or be terminated, no longer believe in giving associates and managers time with their families, no Sam's Share and NO Christmas decorations or decorated Christmas trees in any Clubs. Maybe it is time to get rid of them and go back to old school way. Give the Clubs the payroll to provide great member service. Try asking what the Clubs need instead of showing up and terminating management and closing clubs.

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Post ID: @4mhe+VC5Yuxl

As a fellow Tech Lead, you really hit the nail on the head. It is tough to lead your team when so much is expected from us. Fortunately for me, though, I have a couple key associates who have been in the department for years and really help keep the ship from sinking. They've saved my butt so many times when I got overwhelmed, and I give them all the respect and appreciation I can possibly give.

What a lot of leaders today don't understand that what you give is what you will get back. Before becoming TL I worked in electronics along side my team, and even as the TL you'll still find me on the floor working pallets with my guys when I'm not needed elsewhere.

Even though I don't plan on being with the company forever, you still need to make the best out of the current situation. I'll be graduating college within the next few months and have already been job hunting and went on a few interviews. Even though things seem sh--ty and I plan to get out of here soon, I still go to work every day and aim to say "I gave it my all" at the end of my shift because at the day in the current moment this is what's putting food on my table and paying my bills.

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Post ID: @2hoh+VC5Yuxl

I have been with Sams club for thirty one years.I couldn't agree more with what you said. I can tell that you cared a great deal about the company but it s---ed the life out of you. I'm so happy for you. I wish I would have chosen a different path.Sams club has changed so much over the years. Would I want a friend or family member working at Sams the answer is absolutely no.The part time people who call in four times a month rule. They get the best schedules.I've missed maybe ten days in thirty years.I care about Sams club.maybe some day the company might value long term associates more or am I dreaming.

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Post ID: @1ndy+VC5Yuxl

Stock market owns america. Without ever increasing sales the cuts have to come from somewhere; staffing, wages, healthcare, building maintenance, ect....

Buy local and buy less. Accept that it may cost a little more. Support small business or pay the hedge funds.

God save us all

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Post ID: @1esf+VC5Yuxl

Our team lead in marketing does not do any of the things you did. She is in charge of membership only she closes 2 nights a month. That’s all

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Post ID: @1wpk+VC5Yuxl

One of the most accurate posts I’ve ever read on this site. Toxic, toxic atmosphere to put it lightly.

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Post ID: @1vpb+VC5Yuxl

You know not every club is like that but sooo many of them are. This is what happens when you hire Managers who shouldnt be managers. When they all think there great but there not. All they do is walk around in packs with there minions trailing behind them, while the rest of us slave away. Im so glad you have seen the light and got out. No amount of Gods blessings can save this Company because theres too much greed and no respect.

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Post ID: @1dif+VC5Yuxl

#GOLD

The End of the Road - Quitting Sam's Club: My Advice to Those Who Want to be Team Leaders and Move Up

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Post ID: @1sug+VC5Yuxl

What a glorious post.

Good luck OP.

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Post ID: @1xdy+VC5Yuxl

This is exactly what I've been trying to articulate to people in the last year. Good luck with the new job bud.

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Post ID: @1efc+VC5Yuxl

Carbon copy of my club. Sad.

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Post ID: @1tld+VC5Yuxl

Very well said! As a manager I give you props for trying to do an excellent job faced with what all our associates are felling very day. We have become a business that drives away good talent. I’m safe to say I don’t think this company will survive much longer.

All these new apps,but no time to look or do them. What we need is people to work. Not less. When will the company learn. Home office come and really work in a club for a month and really see what it takes to run a club. Not. Showboat club

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Post ID: @1eyx+VC5Yuxl

I agree also. I am constantly sick day after day. I know it's all stress related. Our Club is a joke. They do ride their best associates and promote the ones that call out. Managers make fun of the associates and if you make one of them mad, then they will surely find a reason to fire you. It gets harder and harder to work for Sam's Club.

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Post ID: @1szc+VC5Yuxl

agree with it all

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Post ID: @jlr+VC5Yuxl

Very well said! I also was a team lead in a couple of different departments during my time at Sam's. My stress levels were so high that I would make myself sick. I would go home puking. I gave my 2 weeks a week ago, and I can't tell you how much better I feel knowing I will not have this place weighing so heavily in my brain anymore. I have never endured so much immaturity in my life, from every level at my club. GM all the way down. This is a company wide problem, not just in your club. I wish you the best, man... We are free!!!

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