I know a guy who was laid off around a year ago, if that long, and now he is back at Cisco. Not only is he back here, he is back at the same team he was laid off from.
How in the world does that make any sense? I mean good for him, but how does giving somebody severance than rehiring him so soon after makes any financial sense for the company?
leadership puts emphasis on moving work to bangalore to save money - in a couple of years it becomes clear that it cost more with the caps and customer issues - managers then rehire the people they sent packing just a year or two earlier. can't complain as i have benefited twice from this at cisco
Which management? Even the labor aristocracy are exploited.
the blame is not really on Bangalor, its on the management insisting on puting opperations there.
@1vam would it differ in Sales, Services?
I don't doubt this happens - Cisco is an amazingly poorly run company at every level. What I don't understand is why engineers come back...
Yes for the amount of work required the pay is good - but time is short and there are only a finite number of projects you can work on in your life... Why spend years building something JUST for a paycheck?
My skills had atrophied badly working there for several years and it took months to bring them back up to par, but when I did I was able to land a job at a top tier company. The pay is much better, the coworkers smarter, the boss is busy trying to build a product not an empire... No way in HELL I would go back to Cisco now.
I've seen it happen a few times - some of which involved top performers. How can someone go from a 9 in the block rating system to "made redundant" in 12 months?
Neither HR nor Directors/VPs would dare intervene the decision to lay off the person in question - even if they knew they were losing a top performer to competition. In most cases that I've seen, it was personal targeting by the employee's manager, but for liability, everyone in management would stick to the narrative "due to opex optimization, your position has been made redundant" and nod their heads along.
A year or two later, the guy/gal laid off would come back after the person who laid them off leaves Cisco. Even to the same position.
No company is perfect. No product portfolio is ever complete. Deadwood exists in each and every company. It's not greener on the other side, it's greener where you water it the most. Just like at any other organization, you must keep your skills sharp.
That being said - and coming from the Sales org, if you find a manager you can work with - understands the business, the customers and the market, Cisco isn't that bad of a place to be. I think the same applies to any other organization.
The problem with Cisco is that it being a very large and complicated environment, mid-management are spending so much effort on lobbying rather than on actually improving the work environment, getting actual results. It's so easy for an individual contributor to get washed away in the tides of his/her manager. Nurturing this kind of kiss-a-- environment is really demotivating to those who put in hard work and good effort.
My 2cents.
bangalore has destroyed most products the work on
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This has happened at CCBU with me. I was replaced with three cheap labourers in BLR. They were not able to do the job. Now, they have hired me back at BXB.
Business has improved. They are doing excellent.
Simple
The Bangalore team couldn’t handle the job and they hired me back in BxB.
it's all just a game