I am an impacted Proximity employee with a QTD date of 7/31/18. I declined an unreasonable offer and am in the process of searching for new employment. I reached out to a team manager for a reference and was advised that while he would normally gladly do so, the SM has instructed team managers not to provide references for any impacted employees. Has anyone else impacted encountered the same issue?
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At least poodles can lick their own balls once in a while
Ironic that someone wrote that there was never a good TM, SM, Claims Manager, etc. maybe it was you!!!
The company policy is that managers are not allowed to give references or confirm employment.
Any requests are supposed to go through the Work Number only.
2kev. Some of the earlier posts describing all classes of leadership as bad or inept confirms the real reason this site exists. Protect the worker- what a joke. Keep pushing it downhill! That's the direction it flows anyway.
Poodle would have been way better.
Most of the consultants I worked with could have been replaced by a poodle.
And the consultants that were chased were replaced with inexperienced 30 somethings with next to no experience regarding complicated coverage matters or institutional litigation.
Consultants were just cut 4/30, was that because they were the most productive and valuable employees?
1-Styx-glad to know you were a consultant when you retired LOL!
The Company policy is only HR confirms employment status, current or past. There is are many legal nuances to recommendations/confirmations. This protects the Company BUT also the previous employee. This policy applies everyone in leadership, from TM to CEO. This policy has existed for at least 40 years. This is pretty standard procedure for major employers.
Some of the earlier posts describing all classes of leadership as bad or inept detract from the real value of this site.
In my many years at Big Red I met respectable Claims Consultants but not one TM, SM, or Claim Manager worth a dime. They were not only inept but bad people, everyone of them.
I was in a management capacity for over a decade and gave recommendations for valued employees, when asked; even though it violated policy. It is not unheard of. Although many are too scared to really lead and do what is right.
You are an idiot.
It's standard policy that managers cannot give references. All my managers liked me and respected my work (as far as I know), but none of them would risk their livelihood by giving me a reference, as they simply were not allowed to do so, and it had nothing to do with me personally or the fact that I was being laid off. Just SOP.
I always considered it yet another way that managers at State Farm were sort of useless. I had maybe 8 managers over the course of my 17 years at the Farm and I still couldn't tell you what any of them did, aside from reading us memos.
HYPOTHETICAL CONVERSATION WITH MANAGER AS FOLLOWS:
Boss: Hi, I'm your manager.
Me: So, what do you do again?
Boss: Nothing really. I read some stuff to you during team meetings that you could read yourself and basically waste your time.
Me: No, really. What's your actual work product?
Boss: Oh, I manage the people.
Me: Yeah? Do you actually help the people on your teams get any work done?
Boss: Oh yeah. I can escalate some stuff, you know, make people talk out their problems, maybe get you guys in a room together. But not if it's going to make me look bad. I'm sure you understand.
Me: Uh-huh. And when I leave, you can't even give me a reference?
Boss: Nope.
Me: So... why are you here?
Boss: Mostly so I can collect this paycheck. Yeah, that's pretty much it.
I’m not impacted but after talking with family this week I decided to go to work for another company
I feel for all my friends and partners that have put there heart into this company
As for the executive not sure if they are qualified or competent to run a company
It’s going to be a dark world
Runaway train I’m the last of 12 in my unit 8 were top of the line they are gone 3 left to pursue other careers I am leaving in two weeks effect tomorrow.
Everyone got together and we can’t understand what is going on the executive level going to feel this transition hard all the best to everyone
There is a difference between a professional reference and a personal reference. Most employers would seek performance information from Human Resources.
All the more reason why someone can trash the place on the way out. Next employer can only confirm empoyment with the vendor.
Managers are not allowed to give references, for at least 10 years now we have been referring prospective employers to Theworknumber.com/employees. It's not personal and it is not new and has nothing to do with you being laid off versus leaving voluntary. If your TM could not explain that to you they must not be very informed on company policies.
Standard everywhere. Companies don't like to lay people off and have managers provide glowing references in case they are sued.
Agree with last poster. I was in Management in another area and that was standard protocol. Maybe you can provide past EPRS?? Good luck with your search!
I haven’t heard that, but in the past I have heard that managers are not supposed to provide references. There’s a department hiring employers can call to verify your employment here, but that’s it.