Does anyone know how many folks are currently in the over staffed roles in Bloomington...IT Analyst -Solutions, IT Analyst - Department Operations, etc.? I believe 890 people will lose their jobs in Bloomington, but it would be interesting to learn the current number of people in those roles.
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In true Systems fashion always arrogant. They in fact can and will make replacements in Systems. Have you seen any of your buddies packing up and shipping off?
You're having an argument with yourself, troll. Nothing you said is even remotely related to the post you referenced.
I'm not surprised, given that you were apparently such a poor candidate for a Systems job that HR literally laughed at you. Comprehension skills -- along with typing skills -- are not your forte.
@SwRGHFV-ccl In true Systems fashion always arrogant. They in fact can and will make replacements in Systems. Have you seen any of your buddies packing up and shipping off?
truly hope that you are right, please report back after the decisions have been made.
I won't be able to report back, as I now work someplace else. But the shuffle going on in Systems is different than what happened in Proximity. In Systems, it's all about over and under staffed skillsets. The key word there being skillsets. There have also been very clear guidelines regarding what State Farm is willing to pay for, which makes it clear that BAs will not be retrained to become developers (for example).
Everything in Systems revolves around skillset rather than zipcode.
But to be clear, I am not saying State Farm will retain the best people. Clearly it will not. As there is a big difference between "skill set" and "quality of employee." Two totally different concepts.
These numbers mean nothing in reality. Fake them anyway you want. Bottom line...great people losing jobs because money is now more important than skill, experience or loyalty. Makes me sick.
@SwRGHFV-ccl - @SwRGHFV-vtk here. I truly hope that you are right, please report back after the decisions have been made. I can personally tell you of level 3 Proximity employees that are canned due to where they lived, while level 1 employees are safe because there was no one else in their territory. I don't know of a team in my area that isn't adversely impacted because of stupid decisions that have been made.
@SwRGHFV-vtk I think they'll have to consider skillset in Systems. For example, there's no way they can ask an ISD BA to be a Java Developer unless that particular individual has a very unusual combination of skills. This is the reason they had EVERYONE in systems fill out those skill inventories. There's just no way to expect a lifetime business person to sit down and start writing code. That's why so many of them are going to end up being shown the door.
@SwRGHFV-ltz - I will be very surprised if skills & performance are taken into account for IT. It is a naïve but cute thought, hold onto it for as long as you can. Corporate has already shown that they don't care about skills or performance with the Proximity decisions.
I think the IT selection process will start with skill set, making sure we keep critical skills, then it’ll jump right into salary / seniority because this all is heavily aimed at saving money. Back to @SwRGHFV-mvi posts.. very valid points on th numbers. One additional part of that equation that I think it important to take into account is the number of employees currently assigned to overstaffed roles that will relocate for a future state position. So that 900 drop in employees in Bloomington could be comprised of a fair number of relo’s. This is all definitely speculation and we’re dealinf with large numbers. There’s no saying what your individual, real chances of being sh!tcanned actually are. Just keep your work quality up as much as possible and do anyt training you think could help you whatever your next step is.
While not Bloomington, Proximity is getting hit hard, going from about 8000 down to 5000. Something really scary to ponder: Fire Proximity jobs were determined by zip code territory, not job performance. I wonder what random criteria they will use when choosing the Bloomington positions???
I thought it was a reduction of 890 IT employees in Bloomington with a net reduction of 500 across the company.
Not quite. It's more like this:
1) There are 1200 being reduced from overstaffed roles in Bloomington
2) There are 310 being added to understaffed roles in Bloomington
If every single member of group #2 came from group #1, the total number of people handed a pink slip in BLM would be 890. But when you compare the skillsets between the understaffed and overstaffed groups, I think SF will have a hard time finding 310 matches, or anywhere near that. So we either end up with way more than 890 individuals canned in Bloomington, or we end up with a lot of people doing work they're not qualified for.
When we factor in the growth of the hubs, net reduction in jobs companywide (considering ONLY the jobs in play per the announcement where the above was discussed), the net reduction in jobs companywide is somwhere around 500.
This # is far beyond 890. What is the total to dat of all departments? Corporate should be answering that question
I thought it was a reduction of 890 IT employees in Bloomington with a net reduction of 500 across the company. That could mean 890 existing employees are let go and 390 newbies are hired, or 500 are let go and 390 relocate outside Bloomington, or any combo of various scenarios. Being that there are a whole bunch of understaffed roles out there, I’d be willing to guess that there will be > 500 fired and some brought on resulting in the 500 net number. Either way, AT LEAST 500 people are losing their jobs and looking at the numbers by location, it will be entirely in Bloomington. I’ve heard a lot of people speculate about the totals of people in the overstaffed roles but it’s just that.. speculation. ISD is/was a 900 person dept comprised almost entirely of BA’s (outside of leadership), but many of those are located outside Bloomington. If you’re an overstaffed person, make sure you get yourself aligned to a product sweet now and kick some a$$.
People keep throwing around the number 890, but I really wish they would qualify that with "NET JOBS."
More than 890 individual employees in Bloomington are going to be terminated.
Other depts are getting hit too and no ones talking about it. Over 100 people just got QTDs in L&D, tons in Bloomington.
There are 2600 impacted employees. That number will be reduced to 1400. Of the 1200 reduced, some will have opportunities in other places in the company, others will just be done.
The world is sleeping and I am numb.