Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

And sales people hound you if you take the free credits. Expect your phone and email to explode.

Oracle does gibe free credits for a new account sign-up on their website.

However

1. Oracle prices are largely more expensive compared to the competition (a reflection of the legacy business where significant discounts are expected to be negotiated)

2. The Oracle "Cloud" has downtime every month for maintenance.

Those two things alone tell developers that they can do better elsewhere.

@SiIihp1-1yps:

You're absolutely right- hiring a new executive to improve developer relations only sounds logical inside a f*cked up dictatorship like Oracle.

The top leadership at Oracle like to think of themselves as visionaries, and earnestly believe that good things happen only if the glorious leaders think it up and micromanage their worthless underlings into getting things done. Oracle's big customers (mostly older companies) also share a similar mindset. Which is why all of them are finding it difficult to compete these days.

Developers embrace opensource software and the opensource community mindset. Oracle is all about the dominance of the mighty enterprise and the executive elite. The idea of hiring an executive to attract developer interest is backwards thinking.

You want to use AWS? Free tier - justsign up for a free Amazon account or use the one you use to buy stuff. Google? Use your google account and they give you $300 worth of free cloud. Maybe Azure has the same, I don't know.

Does Oracle have a free tier? How easy do they make it to start using it without getting hounded by sales people? Amazon and Google don't hound you. If your cloud is good enough it will sell itself. You only need sales people for larger accounts and enterprise deals.

Funny, when was it that a certain MSFT CEO stood up at a developer conference as started screaming DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS .... that was a long time ago, way ahead of oracle

It’s about winning mindset with developers instead of their bosses. Developers which may or may not be using Oracle products, something Oracle isn’t known for.

Unfortunately it’s not just about having a new face trying to convince The cool kids to use Oracle products.

Oracle can’t get out of its own way to save its *ss

No, I don't think it has anything to do with TK. I think they are thinking external developers. It's more of a marketing position. How to appeal to external developers that use Oracle products. Apparently the "autonomous database" (which is really a cloud thing, not a database) doesn't appeal to external developers, like in IT.

I think that's what it is.

wonder what "developer relations" means. Maybe like a separate person to handle relationships between developers? Someone to help people get along? I don't know what that means.

If it just said "a new executive to run development", then I'd think they were replacing TK, But this doesn't really sound like that.

Maybe it's just more Oracle BS.... I don't know, but I do agree they need to do something.

a new executive to run developer relations

So would he replace TK, or just be a token subordinate?