Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Why AWS and Azure Are Incomplete Clouds

Mohindroo contrasted Oracle’s offering with Amazon’s AWS cloud. “AWS is an incomplete cloud. Their main focus is IaaS, compute, and storage. If you want to store files in the cloud [or] spin out a new server, you’re good. But most customers want to run applications, and with AWS most of those capabilities come from third parties. So when it comes to integration, you’re on your own.” And if something breaks down, he added, you’d better hope it’s a problem with the infrastructure; otherwise you’ll be calling multiple app vendors to resolve the issue.

Microsoft’s Azure is also an incomplete cloud, Mohindroo noted. “Their DNA is not infrastructure, and they offer incomplete IaaS, fewer compute choices, and a limited platform for SaaS applications.” Microsoft customers need to invest in third-party tools for building SaaS extensions. “Even worse,” added Mohindroo, “Azure taps out for large implementations, with a maximum 1 terabyte for Azure SQL Database.” That’s just not enough for the volume of data that companies are collecting today. For example, Mohindroo said, sensors on a single airline engine can generate half a terabyte of data on a cross-country flight.

“Oracle is the only vendor in the market that will deliver cloud on your terms. We want to give you the choice and the confidence to follow your own path. We’re committed to your success, and we understand that you’re betting your business on Oracle technology,” said Mohindroo.

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Exactly, between regions you are totally on your own. Even between availability domains most you get is 1 Gb/sec. Such b---s--- ... toy cloud.

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Post ID: @1hvh+SdAKsf0

You nailed it @SdAKsf0-1rag!

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Post ID: @1bun+SdAKsf0

Let's start with something easy -- does Oracle have their own network lines between their data centers to support something like a disaster recovery failover for IaaS workloads?

Answer: No. Oracle expects customers to buy connectivity to each data center and to run the traffic for backups from the primary data center through their own corporate network and to the secondary data center.

How about another one - does Oracle win business by being the Cloud?

Answer: No. Oracle specifically altered its licensing terms so that the cost of running on AWS or Azure doubled and they won't support other Clouds at all.

One more. Since Oracle points to size limitations in Azure SQL database, does Oracle have the largest database implementations?

Answer: No. Oracle has long advocated for relational databases based on shared storage, but this approach has issues once data volumes grow very large. The largest databases have moved to distributed architectures and, in many cases, to NoSQL technology.

Oracle has to resort to name calling and Cloud-washing in an attempt to appear that they are even in the game. In the meantime, they are trying to promote on-premise "Cloud" or hybrid approaches just to keep customers away from the benefits that other Clouds are offering.

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Post ID: @1rag+SdAKsf0

Anyone who thinks Oracle Cloud is even remotely comparable to AWS/Azure/Google should have their head examined. Unfortunately that includes quite a few of Oracle's big paying customers, where key IT decisions are made by clueless out-of-touch has-beens.

That entire generation will gradually be replaced by younger nimble competitors that use the real cloud and cutting edge technology.

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Post ID: @1nsp+SdAKsf0

https://www.forbes.com

By Margaret Lindquist, Senior Director of content for Oracle brand marketing.

Oct 13, 2016 - Mohindroo contrasted Oracle's offering with Amazon's AWS cloud.

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Post ID: @1dqm+SdAKsf0

Hey OP, i’ve Got news for you - you are a COMPLETE idiot! Did you get the joke OP?!

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Post ID: @1woy+SdAKsf0

Oracle cloud is so great that it has zero market share - a well kept secret! Nah, just a useless piece of crap!

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Post ID: @1fkz+SdAKsf0

Oracle is the only vendor in the market that will deliver cloud on your terms.

This is complete BS. Oracle cloud is crap. Must have assigned a marketing guy here.

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Post ID: @eqh+SdAKsf0

Great Post!!!

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