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At GE, the term research is often a misnomer; what we do is fast prototypes.

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GE puts technology at the core of innovation: CTO Vic Abate

General Electric CTO Vic Abate on GE’s tech strategy, Industrial Internet of Things and cross-pollination of innovation between research units and other businesses

New Delhi: Vic Abate, a 27-year-veteran at General Electric Co. (GE), currently heads the company’s global research, engineering and product management teams as senior vice-president and chief technology officer (CTO). GE has global research centres (GRCs) in New York and Bengaluru. In a recent interview, Abate spoke about GE’s tech strategy, and shared his views on the Industrial Internet of Things (IIoT) and cross-pollination of innovation between research units and other businesses. Edited excerpts:

What does your “Technology+” strategy really mean?

The way we think about innovation at GE is (to put) technology at the core. What we mean by Technology+ at GRC is that “physics meets markets” and “research meets reality”. Technology for technology’s sake is not nearly as important as getting it to be adopted. So when we talk about moving the world of healthcare or energy or transportation, it is about adopting technologies—that is how we measure the success of our team at GRC.

John Flannery, GE’s chief executive, has termed 2018 as a “reset year” for the company. What does this imply for technology at GE?

Our commitment to technology is stronger than ever. The reset has nothing to do with that commitment, but it has helped us focus more (sharply). The way I think about focus is “outcome and economics”—the real breakthroughs and the real game changers that are going to make a difference. And the way to get to those as fast and cost-effectively as possible.

How is Predix, your platform for IIoT, shaping up?

The way I think about the whole digital dimension, especially in the world of high-tech infrastructure is a big push first on “digital inside”. Take additive manufacturing, for example, in which you have new breakthroughs in the supply chain. Laser technology, software, materials technology...all these come together in an additive manufacturing machine. Digital controls in the machine and making them the edge of the manufacturing ecosystem is key—and GE is focused on that in our additive business. Once you have those additive machines, there is a network of those machines where digital, over the top, can connect them.

When you think of Predix, there are two dimensions to it: one is the operating system at the edge of the industrial assets, which allows them to control physical properties; and the other is to look up (other industrial assets) and connect them over the IIoT.

How do the innovations by GE engineers typically get absorbed?

I just spent a week at the Bengaluru centre and came across engineers that work on jet engines, in automotive (technology) and on CT (computer tomography) scanners, among others. It is a cross-company technical community at our research centres and you may say they are all different, but here is the reality: the X-ray technology we are using in healthcare is being deployed in our aviation factories to inspect our new composite ceramic jet engine parts—without a human in the loop. If you look at the aerodynamics that has been done in a jet engine to manage the path of every molecule of air in the engine—that same technology is over there in our additive machines for quality purposes. At GE, the term research is often a misnomer; what we do is fast prototypes.

What kind of work is being done at your recently-opened science of product management lab in New York?

It is about how we see the future. What we are doing at this lab is finding what can create the most value for business. For example, in the healthcare business, having imaging machines with higher and higher resolution for better quality images was the key for years. Now if, using artificial intelligence, we can scan people faster, then that asset can have a higher capacity factor—which is hundreds of thousands of dollars in value per machine. Another example is from energy, which is a complex space. We consider all the sources and consumption patterns of energy—be it from the earth, sun or wind—and map it with all the numbers in a single view. We can see what would be the impact of electrification of vehicles in transportation or the impact of demand-side management of LED lamps or more regulation in an area. This gives us a sense: we can overlay our product portfolio on that map and stress-test it (for different scenarios). It helps us in our strategic planning.

What is your key challenge as the CTO of a large industrial conglomerate?

It is always a challenge to disrupt yourself before someone else does, but it is exciting. At GE, we have amazing businesses that are so good at what they do, and our job (at GRC) is to show them a different future.

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Anyone at GRC has access to charge rates, and what one of the comments said is accurate. In 2017, the charge rate for a LP engineer in Nisky was 278k and one is Bangalore was 93k. I believe that has been changed now to 270k vs 125k.

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Post ID: @4klq+SFRcsF4

was typically 1/3 to 1/5

Is now about .7

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Post ID: @4hyf+SFRcsF4

Cost to a project of someone in Bangalore compared to someone in Niskayuna was typically 1/3 to 1/5 so the $93k number doesn't sound too far off. Before you shout that someone doesn't know what they are talking about, perhaps you should know what you are talking about? Just a thought.

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Post ID: @4kju+SFRcsF4

From the article referenced it appears like Vic was referencing the fact that India engineers work across multiple business units for his business. I have not been with GE for years. I can say that has never been the case for our old power business unit. If we had a head in India it was dedicated to power for time we had them. Maybe it is different for GRC. I often wondered why we had to continually send US resources there to train them month after month. Well I was chatting with a friend that trains resources for a internet giant (name I will leave out) well I found out after a period of time (1-2 years) the game India plays is to ask for 2x their current salary. I know we used to promote our good resources in India and they would become a manager. But we still had to send people to train the individual contributors. Finally, one day I asked a India engineer what gives? How come the manager we trained could not train his engineering resources on the tasks we educated him on. The comment back was CASTE system my man, depending on where he was from it was beneath him to lower himself to that minimal task. At that point I knew that GE leadership where a bunch of idiots to keep up this game of spending millions of dollars on T&L to train a revolving door of new engineering resources to save nothing if you factor in the lost time and overhead of US resources.

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Post ID: @4dme+SFRcsF4

Then $93k isn't what India charges. You D O N O T know what you are talking about.

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Post ID: @4lna+SFRcsF4

I heard Vic Abate got his son a job in building 273 in Schenectady. I also heard he got fast tracked to a good job in a good area on first shift.....it takes most guys years to work their way to first shift.....but not when your Vic’s son

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Post ID: @3psd+SFRcsF4

The $270K quoted was not the average salary of an LP/SP, but rather the average billed cost to a project including GRCN's high overhead.

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Post ID: @3yne+SFRcsF4

$270k in Nisky? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa

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Post ID: @3uar+SFRcsF4

Before the genius idea of using assessed money to reduce charge rates for LP and SP at GRC, the charge rates in Bangalore were 1/3rd of Nisky (eg. 270k in Nisky to ~93k in Bangalore). The way GE is really making money on Bangalore is by paying those folks 1/5th of Nisky (hearing compensation being as low as 20k including retirement and medical benefits)

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Post ID: @3jqt+SFRcsF4

India hasn't been 1/3 the price for 20 years. Sorry. You don't know what you are talking about. The real problem with GRC is that no one good wants to move there because it's a dying sh-- hole.

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Post ID: @3xgx+SFRcsF4

agree with - 3ncb , -2erz &-1qpr.

In GE 6 sigma lingo , the best "abate"ment for the "Income CTQ " is to downsize GRC.

VA would do anything to put his stamp on this- verticals or Horizontals , he would not care.

The "liked ones" and the "need the Optics/EEO folks" will be moved to the 2 horizontals - CMC & Additives.

Additives as a business would be on sale in a couple of years at best.

CMA horizontal would be focusing on cost take out (should be at least 30% to sustain) mainly.

The "have to keep/Good" ones on Business applied programs will go under respective business pay rolls.

GRC Nisky will get paid for the lab& facilities rental, with the new chief (from India) managing the show...

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Post ID: @3fgo+SFRcsF4

So the master -Abator was in India recently ? Another waste of money for GE. He is there because he was told to go there. If Vic had his way he would keep everything in NYS at the Nisky facility. Some idiot at the top looks at PhD salaries and thinks adding India resources at 1/3 the price are going to save the company money. You get what you pay for ..it is that simple. You wonder why GE is really not a technical innovator anymore.

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Post ID: @3ncb+SFRcsF4

Look guys, Vic virtue signals with the best of them. He does not know or care about the details. Details are for losers. He's not going to be constrained by details or even what he said or did last quarter. He figures out what his boss wants to hear and says and does exactly that. The more adamant his boss wants to see more or less horizontals or verticals or whatever the more Vic will go overboard to make them.

To understand Vic know that there is no Vic. Vic's opinion is just an illusion designed to amplify his bosses opinion.

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Post ID: @2erz+SFRcsF4

Some horizontals like CMC and Additive are maintained, but most product breakouts are being dissolved. Members are already told to go back to their original orgs, don't think they are being "forced out" of GRC, not yet at least.

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Post ID: @2vfv+SFRcsF4

@1mxz Vic created some of the largest and flashiest horizontals -- PMSci, Forge Lab, Robotics. Now you say he's going to "force out" what he just built? Why? And how? Lay them all off?

Other horizontals (CMCs, Additive) contain star performers that the TDLs would want back in their orgs. But you say those horizontals will also be "forced out"? Again, why? And how?

I can imagine various GRC realignments, including moving people onto business headcount. But your ominous warning that horizontals will be "forced out" (or "let go" as stated in a different thread) doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Post ID: @2awq+SFRcsF4

http://fortune.com/2012/08/03/how-a-top-ge-exec-engineered-himself-out-of-a-job/

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Post ID: @2tpv+SFRcsF4

If Vic was against the alstom purchase for all the reasons it failed, then he got push out of power because Bolze won the power struggle. He's gotta know something.

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Post ID: @1qpr+SFRcsF4

"What we mean by Technology+ at GRC is that “physics meets markets” and “research meets reality”. Technology for technology’s sake is not nearly as important as getting it to be adopted. So when we talk about moving the world of healthcare or energy or transportation, it is about adopting technologies—that is how we measure the success of our team at GRC." - This is about the future of GRC...

As mentioned in an earlier post,

  1. The reorg is done; more Horizontals to be forced out.

The "Indian Chief" is settling down ; it is his job to

a.realign the verticals to report directly to the businesses depending on their main projects.

b. get rid of the horizontals.

c. be the admin head for the "extended business funded labs" and take care of the building and facilities.

After all, he was "successful" in "adopting" the locomotive technology to "productize" for India.

Hope the bright Scientists & engineees see the "writing on the wall"

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Post ID: @1mxz+SFRcsF4

Also love the line

‘At GE, we have amazing businesses that are so good at what they do, and our job (at GRC) is to show them a different future’

Then, by definition, they are not good at what they do. Otherwise, they can do their own rapid prototypes. Why do you need someone else to show them a different future? Research is a different skill, not typically easy for businesses. But rapid prototyping? C’mon you don’t need PhDs for that.

Direct result of finance types running technology businesses, cede technology innovation to blowhards. Story of GE - incompetent top layers fighting for headlines instead of creating value for customers. Zero sum game mentality and jockeying for position by competing with poorly run businesses.

Jack Welsh was an engineer (PhD) ... just saying.

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Post ID: @xyr+SFRcsF4

Abate loves to hear himself talk, what a blowhard.

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Post ID: @yym+SFRcsF4

Just wondering about this quote... "It is always a challenge to disrupt yourself before someone else does"

Is leadership purposely disrupting the business and running it into the ground as the stock has been Im...melt down to the 13 range?

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Post ID: @zca+SFRcsF4

Let them eat brioche.

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Post ID: @ptb+SFRcsF4

Bullseye.

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Post ID: @ozj+SFRcsF4

The usual bull**** from the wanna-be Elon Musk

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Post ID: @zzu+SFRcsF4

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