If the a majority of posts that were deleted on a thread titled, "Adding a placeholder here for people to share their HPE Jan 16th layoff announcements stories." some how constitute a violation of use then what value does "thelayoff.com" actually provide to said users? Like I titled this thread, my memory is pretty good and many of the deleted posts couldn't possibly violate any term of use for a site title "thelayoff.com"
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I never post to this site using my HPE laptop or if at home when connected via VPN. All HPE laptops have a security service running on the background. One can never tell what data it collects. Even b--ching the company internally via Skype is also watched. To be safe use your personal devices to post here.
The combination of this site's server logs, obtained through subpoena, and HP's server logs, would pretty easily identify someone, I imagine.
People really shouldn't be posting here using HP equipment or across HP's network. Use your home computer, so you don't jeopardize your employment or severance package.
That is a good deed if they are trying to protect the people posting here. But does it also mean the owners of the site think anonymity of the posters can be blown if the companies wanted to break in? How secure are the anonymous postings? I know there is no such thing as absolute security. Is it at least as good as Glassdoor and similar anonymous sites?
If indeed the site is removing posts from HP IP addresses, they may just be trying to protect HP whistle blowers from HP retaliation.
I am in the US and was WFR'd in October 2017. The 60 Pay Equivalent and 60 day benefit equivalent amounts were deducted from the total severance. So, one would receive three deposits - those two plus the remaining severance, all totaling the severance based on the 11 week plus 2 days for every service year past 11.
"To those affected by the Jan 16th layoff in the U.S., please comment on whether or not your WFR material included a Federal 60 day WARN Act notification. "
" What Triggers Notice
Plant Closing: A covered employer must give notice if an employment site (or one or more facilities or operating units within an employment site) will be shut down, and the shutdown will result in an employment loss (as defined later) for 50 or more employees during any 30-day period. This does not count employees who have worked less than 6 months in the last 12 months or employees who work an average of less than 20 hours a week for that employer. These latter groups, however, are entitled to notice (discussed later).
Mass Layoff: A covered employer must give notice if there is to be a mass layoff which does not result from a plant closing, but which will result in an employment loss at the employment site during any 30-day period for 500 or more employees, or for 50-499 employees if they make up at least 33% of the employer's active workforce. Again, this does not count employees who have worked less than 6 months in the last 12 months or employees who work an average of less than 20 hours a week for that employer. These latter groups, however, are entitled to notice (discussed later)."
So, unless your office is closed, or 550+ employees are let go, or 33%+ are let go, then Federal WARN does not apply. Some states, like California, have their own versions of WARN that are more favorable to employees.
That said, what I have seen some companies do is that if you are covered by a 60 day WARN, then those 60 days are subtracted from your severance package.
@2yzr - I found this on the web (as it relates to France). Needless to say, we don't have anything even close in the US...
"A 'job preservation plan' must be drawn up when layoffs of 10 or more employees in a 30-day period are being considered. The plan must explain all action taken to avoid the loss of jobs, such as reorganizing work, job sharing, redeployment of employees inside and outside the company, etc. The plan must also explain the financial terms of the severance package. It is then submitted to the staff representatives and the labor authorities. The notification period for layoffs under a 'job preservation plan' varies according to the number of employees concerned. Layoffs of up to 100 employees can take place 30 days after the labor authorities have been notified of the layoff plan. The waiting period is 45 days for layoffs of 100 to 249 employees and 60 days for 250 or more employees."
@1vhm, I recall several posts from people in France saying that their notifications were "illegal" due to local regulations. If someone has any information of what those regulations are, please, explain. Thank you!
P.S. - I still have the gut feeling HPE threatened the administrators of this site and forced them to remove a ton of posts from yesterday. Just my personal opinion...
I posted yesterday - and it was later on deleted. I am a Solutions Architect at HPE Simplicity in Boston. No idea why it was deleted. I don't think I posted anything inappropriate. I posted from the office, and now I'm doing from home using my personal computer. Let's see what happens...
I agree with the OP and also remember a number of the deleted posts to be diverse (e.g. one in Spanish, a detailed post from someone in Houston, along with detailed posts from the UK, India, and a few other countries) and appeared authentic to me. I cannot fathom how they could have violated this sites posting terms.
To those affected by the Jan 16th layoff in the U.S., please comment on whether or not your WFR material included a Federal 60 day WARN Act notification. Just wondering if there is any connection between the mass deletion of layoff posts and folks not receiving proper WARN notification. I highly doubt the company would have overlooked this, but sh!t happens.
If you rescue me and I get out of here will the bad people try to hurt me?
Bummer! I visit this site regularly, and the day I don't do it, it looks something big happened... :(
Maybe... but I really doubt it. I personally know several people from different sites that were notified today. I don't doubt a few posts were fake, but I think the vast majority were real.
The only thing I think it could be is that one person was trolling the site and they figured it out through IP address or some such. Some of the posts were simple "I was here x years in sales" and those are gone.
I think It figured it out. They took out all the posts that made reference to groups with names that had trademarked product lines names. Most probably HPE threatened them.
Exactly! If this is a legitimate site, Put up why these posts are being deleted? It is now on you to prove you are legit.