A) There is no wireless without wireline.
B) You shouldn't put all your eggs in the wireless basket.
The stock has done nothing the whole time this CEO has been here. The masses are begging for that big fat dumb pipe into their home so they can have their on demand movies, gaming, internet, IoT devices, etc... And instead he was subsidizing people's Iphone purchases. Good for you if you're an Apple stock holder, not so good if your a VZ stock holder.
You do realize that wireless doesn’t strictly use VZ for all wireline transport?
"A) There is no wireless without wireline"
Found the new yorker
Fios is indeed awesome, but no one gives two sh--s whether or not it's a pipe or wireless, and the latter is more convenient.
The entire premise of this thread is stupid. Verizon's strategy is clearly based on convergence and the distinction between wireless and wireline disappearing. We're going to be offering 5G fixed broadband in our wireless footprint within 5 years. Comcast and Charter are absolutely f---ed. And keep in mind, they are not growing, they are bleeding subscribers. They are so profitable because they are bleeding them dry while they can.
Buying Sprint or whatever isn't going to solve this for them. They're dinosaurs. At VZ, we're definitely incompetent, but no one in telecom besides T-Mobile or Altice has a clue at all.
@uam, my reality is different from yours. While you maintain that the customer does not care or make any distinction about such internal differentiation as how their signal’s delivered, that has not been my experience. My buddy’s kid is a ‘gamer’. He was even looking to improve over and above his FiOS internally wireless fiber connection, and took the further step of hard wiring from his wireless enabled router in order to up his speed for competitive advantage. So, there are apparently people out there who view these things in a different manner than you do. You paint with a very wide brush, and presume to impose your opinion as some sort of commonly accepted fact, when you speak for everyone in saying, “...they give zero fscks about...”
@QdzY5cG-lpe I can relate being in the state of privation known as lack of FiOS, but still I persist. Customers want a product thats a combination of speed, service, price, etc. They want to get that from a company representing a brand. They give zero fscks about the internal distinction perceived within that company.
@zfz, while I don’t argue with your contention, I have seen with my own eyes that FiOS is currently in high demand. I work in the field in a number of areas that are well-fibered, yet are not covered by a franchise agreement. The question I here most often from potential customers is, “When are we going to get FiOS?”.
I explain that they can get FiOS for both voice and data, but they’re, by and large, holding out for the video before considering us as their primary service provider.
And, inevitably, their next comment after inquiring as to when FiOS might become available is, “I can’t wait till you guys get here, I HATE (insert cable company name here)!”.
It seems to me there is great interest in that ‘big, dumb, fat pipe’ you referred to which, in reality, is a big, smart, lean & extreme pipe that people are desperately seeking. It’s one of our best, if not the A-1 best, products, and it’s sought after like you would not believe. Don’t take my word for it, enter any community where we have fiber but no franchise.
Wireless | Wireline - customers don't want a "big fat dumb pipe". They want connectivity without concern for the delivery. Clinging to this illusion may comfort you in drawing distinctions between groups but they don't care who delivers their connectivity - not in the slightest. We are Verizon. S--- it up or find a safe space with some elderly accessibility features built in.
When is he retiring,,??2018
Mcdouche is 63. Verizon is stuck with him for another 1.5 years unless he bags out early out of embarrassment, but billionaires generally dont seem to worry much about what the little sheeple think...
@ ufs "As a leader aren't you supposed to bring products to the customer they want?" Of course you are correct but to do that he would have had to work WITH the union, instead of trying to destroy them. Union is a dirty word in the circles this guy runs in. Without a doubt he thought within 2 contracts the union would be gone. The union will still be here when he is gone. Maybe the next CEO will be smarter and try to have a friendly relationship with the people who build/maintain his network.
Our leaders dumped FIOS/fiber in over 20 states. And with zero percent growth in wireless we are stuck while the cable industry is looking at a 10-year growth. Nothing is going to bring live streaming to your home with the quality and speed as the fiber delivers, and more importantly, people WANT it. As a leader aren't you supposed to bring products to the customer they want?
With leaders like this, who needs the competition to put us all in the poor house.
He gave up on FiOS on the west coast and then ended up dumping it off on Frontier.
"We coulda been a contendah"