Two birds. One stone. Nice shootin', The Shaw Group.
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Hope the guys left can survive CBI has had lot of great people that stayed and should have taken there advice now the ones still staying hoping for light at the end CBI had a chance should have taken back seat and let the ones who know how to move pipe and make money show them instead they messed everything up . To all there people who got layed off I hope you have a Merry Christmas and luck in the future it is sad.
“CB&I Tyler laughs at CB&I Houston and the so called engineers. Those people are a joke and do not know how to design or build a plant.”
That is right on money. Engineers and Department Managers in Westchase office are very incompetent and incoherent. Recently they brought Piping and another department under one nitwit of a manager. They lack creativity and talent. They just react to even dumber ideas coming from Construction team who thinks that they are engineering wizards.
I used to work for Howe-Baker, a true EPC company. We could design and build a plant. We had a name in industry. CMS did not come along until CB&I bought Lummus. CMS is a joke but it was somebodies pet in management. Think they sold management on we can create all these documents, give them to India and let them do the work. We can save lots of money, right!
CB&I Tyler laughs at CB&I Houston and the so called engineers. Those people are a joke and do not know how to design or build a plant.
As it has been said many times, CB&I is no longer a engineering company. CB&I can only sell a project by cutting hours and schedule.
I didn’t work for Shaw but came to respect those I met who did with the exception to of HR and Marketing. CMS was is and will be a disaster- agree with above comments that the system is too big overlooks important aspects of process control and only benefits the system managers “oh look what we published this month”. Any good QMS should document high level ( not stupid work process flow chart) procedures with necessary work instruction below- cut the crap and fat. Hope all the worker bees survive to fight another day with a company that isn’t busy paying hundreds of thousands a year to VP’s who can’t manage their way out of a plastic bag.
Worked for both companies- unbiased opinion- Shaw had better processes and systems. They were not perfect but overall probably 5 + years ahead of cbi. Same with management and employees that I was exposed to- Shaw management held employees accountable and they were held accountable as well.
Were there bad apples - yes but overall better. There seem to be a lot of unqualified directors at cbi that have never done the work they are directing nor led a team. Cbi seems to work and promote more based on who you know- even if unqualified. They should look more closely (audit) all of the family members that get promoted or kept in positions they are not fit for even though incompetent.
I worked with S&W with procedures and standards, Shaw with procedures, CB&I with CMS. I don't believe Shaw methodology was the downfall of CBI. Shaw had trouble sometimes meeting its procedures. They were understandable and audible. I have my own opinions, but CMS does not cut it in the power industry. It is inadequate and virtually unmanageable in its volume. I have been in the industry for decades. Way too many procedures that are general, revision 0, and not integrated with each other. I don't know how we will survive in Power with these practices and methods. Who benefited with CMS? There must have been a bonus to push it through. We should try to recover that bonus.
Shaw was a good place to work before cb&i. They roll in with their CMS and other dumb--s ways of doing things and destroyed a good opportunity. People that worked at Shaw knew how to get work done and turn a profit. I've worked for cb&i for four years now, and when i leave i hope i never again hear the name. How the company lasted as long as it did, with the dumb--ses they had running the place is remarkable. You can talk all the sh-- you want about Shaw. The people from shaw will rebound and succeed again. CB&I will never recover from their stupidity...All you cb&i lovers can kiss my a--. CB&I ruined our jobs my not knowing how to manage a damn project. They're doing so well now, cant blame that on shaw...
How true. Shaw was toxic from day one!
Neither do Louisiana companies and anyone not wearing a hazmat suit
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