If you think their predatory hardware support was bad you should delve deeper into what they’re doing with IaaS & PaaS. It’s outrageous.
@3qzq, please be specific. What exactly are we doing that is so bad?
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Moving revenue from one bucket to another is all oracle is doing, just look at what the audits do: shift on-perm revenues to discounted cloud revenues. Talk about desperate!
21% is a very weak IaaS number compared to the competition and considering the numbers are very small anyway. Most of it is probably Exadata appliances in the "cloud" - in other words, standing up Exadata in Oracle's data center rather than your own. This is not "cloud". You prepay a million bucks in advance. You cannot dynamically scale.
There are a few SPARC customers that are also standing up systems in Oracle's data centers as their existing servers are at end of life, and for the time being, they need to keep the software on them running. Most if not all of these customers have already begun to transition off SPARC and Oracle in general, but they need a stopgap solution.
Both of these count as "IaaS" and "Cloud" revenue, but this is simply robbing Peter to pay Paul - switching revenue from the "hardware" bucket to the "IaaS" bucket.
IaaS & PaaS are the new oracle client trap.
Recently our team figured it out, we will not be going oracle cloud at customer. If you think their predatory hardware support was bad you should delve deeper into what they’re doing with IaaS & PaaS. It’s outrageous.
Run run run away from oracle CLOUD APPS and their DB as fast as you are able.
If its great, it wouldn't be sacked.
Yeah, like remember when Larry fired all the Sun IaaS people because he had zero interest in the cloud?
Products and people don't get cut around here because of lack of potential, they get cut because of mismanagement. I'm not saying SPARC wasn't a dead end, but that has way more to do with the entire industry than the technical merits of the platform itself.
Still pissy at the idiots in Oslo for failing hard on IB.
Are you stupid ? If its great, it wouldn't be sacked. Oracle has stated that it the cloud business will go down to 22% from 44%. If they stated it would slowed to 22%, that is optimistic. The early increase of Oracle Cloud was false indication. Customers being pressured to switch from Oracle licensing threats. Customers still buying into SPARC even dumber. Who would buy a technology knowing that it is deprecating ??? Who ever even proposed that to their company should be fired on the spot.
No. SPARC is dead. All the SPARC engineers have been fired, I mean laid-off. M8 is the last SPARC processor; there's no further development of that technology; quite frankly I think the only people who are going to be buying M8 are customers who are locked into SPARC and need more time to figure out their transition plan away from SPARC to wherever they end up going.
Sonoma, which was supposed to be SPARC for cloud deployment, was DOA and wasn't even adopted by Oracle's own cloud groups.
Basically, SPARC was a great technology for what it was, but it's too power-hungry, runs too hot, and is too expensive for cloud deployment.
What is the IaaS number anyway? Is this them really selling SaaS but then SaaS = IaaS, PaaS, and pure Apps on top of it? Is that how they break it out?
Sure. Right after the HP Itanium Cloud. Keep dreaming. Sun is dead, buried, and decomposed. Ain't no revival coming.
SPARC Cloud back? using what? M8 is the last server SPARC CPU, why a customer should use a cloud based on a dead technology? even the most masochist customer would be cautious in doing this........
Sun Cloud was killed by Larry in 2010.