I wonder how many eligible early retirement people took the ERP offer?
Does anyone have a sense of a number?
I just know that whoever opted to stay might be laying off a younger employee+...
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So to clarify an earlier question/statement. Fact: Retirement package offer was no better than the lay-off package. Someone posted a year's worth of health insurance was offered with early retirement offer and that is not true!
Unless you qualified for and were offered early retirement that doesn't pertain to you at all. If it did then you would have gotten all the info you needed. As for the layoff, which is different than early retirement, insurance ends when severance ends.
I would like some sort of clarification/verification on that "years worth of insurance" offer post for the early retirement offer. I thought it was based on years of service and when severance ran out so did insurance. Anyone have direct knowledge?
Something tells me the young ones on my team will not get cut. There are less and less of us older ones left. We are definitely out numbered at this point. I have noticed my coach, fairly young too, goes to the young ones first. It is rare our coach reaches out to the couple of us older folks. It's sad because we have tons more life and work experience and have a lot to offer the teams.
As an older person, I saw a movie many times called Logan's Run. I won't go into detail but let me just say that, at age 30, it was time to ride the carousel. We're not moving over young uns! Deal with it.
OK. How prevalent is the Age Discrimination in Humana- not just management but employees? Wow. Just WOW. Someone needs to have the EEOC look at this post. So says this over 40 employee. And who is next? Do we start sorting by race, disability, religion? Scary stuff. I thought we have all been well educated on this topic. Unbelievable.
@PQwtC7h-3cow, early retirement package DID NOT offer a whole year of insurance, unless they offered different retirement package to you.
The early retirement package is different then the "lay off" severance package. Early retirement package has a year of insurance included, they have NEVER given this to associates they laid off.
I am not sure OP meant it to be as nasty as he/she sounded, maybe they were thinking of the employees that are over the retirement age but do not wish to leave. Either way it still sounds a little insensitive or rude.
The expectation was 20%...of how many eligibles?
So, OP, what you may not realize is how much it will cost "older folks" to carry their own health insurance until they are eligible for Medicare. I agree with another post that said the retirement package offered was no better than the lay off packages in the past. Older folks may also have a harder time finding another job.
OP is a thoughtless pr!ck. Why should older people make way for younger people? Do you have any sense of how difficult it is to get a job once you hit 50. I really hope that an older person has decided not to take that deal and you get laid off in their place. You have no place being in a caring profession.
I hate to think that someone who thinks like that is in the health care field.....especially dealing with medicare population
I can't even begin to comment on how selfish, insensitive and egotistical that posting was
That comment is laughable. So what? The purpose of people taking retirement isn't to sacrifice themselves for someone younger. Its just not that simplistic.
If Humana was serious about early retirement. option..they would have offered a better package. It was the same as what the severance packages have been....and then cannot apply for unemployment. Probably just protecting themselves for age discrimation claims. I do not feel guilty for not taking it.
Even if its not accepted, that person may go anyway, it was just a way to try to help the situation before involuntary cuts are done. And I did hear that yes, it was a cruddy package, so why would you take it, it is the same as the layoff package, no incentive to take it. Just stay and take your chances.
Maybe this was just a trolling post to get a response. I can’t imagine anyone actually believing that employees at a corporation should be giving up their positions in the hopes it will save some unknown person’s job.
So should individuals that are mature age leave so someone younger can keep their job. We all have a financial responsibility in some manner to something or someone.
This is pretty low and I consider myself a young employee. Young, middle aged and old all have bills to pay and need money to do that. If you were eligible, would you take a subpar retirement package and risk not being able to pay bills to save someone else's job over your family? I think not. Shame on you.
Seriously? Wouldn't you rather have a nurse with a lot more experience ? To say that people should leave a job so that a younger person can have the job is ridiculous. You don't sound very smart.
Honestly, I don’t think anyone deserves to be guilted. If someone stays, they have their reasons, and none of us are owed someone else’s position.
This is a company wide move, and HAH has many employees who have been with the company under 5 years and don’t qualify. So I would try not to focus much on this if you are HAH. We may be impacted either way.