Thread regarding Humana Inc. layoffs

People who spoke up are gone

The people on my team who were let go were always respectful, but did voice their opinions. They stood up for us all and our members and will be gone now. Good leaders should value that, especially as these folks were solid or excellent performers. What seemed to characterize then though, is the fact that they would stand up and make their thoughts known. I got the impression that they were considered an annoyance to my coach, who is a bit incompetent if I am to be honest, and a very negative, bad-cop type "leader".

I have noticed this as well. It certainly seems to send a clear message - keep your head down, or you'll be shown the door. I hope this is just a coincidence, but I highly doubt it.

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Post ID: @OP+P2FiAo2

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From the day M.F. took over the HAH program, it went to hell in a hand-basket. Coaches are not coaches at all, they are TERMINATORS. Daily emails, telling you what you're NOT doing right, instead of celebrating your successes. Best advice? WATCH YOUR BACK, your "coach" is holding the dagger.

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Post ID: @6kft+P2FiAo2

10,000 douche bags... That's the most hysterical thing I have ever read. Take care of yourselves people. Good luck finding new opportunities. It's stressful looking for new employment but Humana is a douche bag ,blood s---ing company.

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Post ID: @1snu+P2FiAo2

Tone deaf of the company for using that word in the email (felt I should clarify I wasn't saying below poster was tone deaf).

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Post ID: @1voz+P2FiAo2

Celebratory? That's really tone deaf considering so many have lost jobs, and considering how 2017 has been for all of us.

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Post ID: @1bux+P2FiAo2

Well then, who's ready for the big "celebratory" meeting next week??? Yes, that word was actually used in the official email. They just don't have a clue.

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Post ID: @1zqw+P2FiAo2

Poster below, they are starting to make work conditions unbearable, so maybe you have a point. That might depend on the team though - maybe there are others who feel it hasn't changed much on their team. It has changed a great deal for my team. Very negative tone the past month.

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Post ID: @1eag+P2FiAo2

Another factor that might go into layoffs is length of employment. If they need to thin the staff, it will be much more cost effective to lay off people with lower tenure, if they are paying 2 weeks severance for each year of service. They are more likely to let go someone who has been there 2 years and only have to pay out 4 weeks of severance rather than someone who's been there 10 years and have to pay out 20 weeks of severance. Hopefully the staff with more tenure also make more money too, which would factor into cost of severance. This way, they can make work conditions unbearable for those who are still there, hopefully forcing the rest to quit on their own and avoid severance at the next round. It is all a strategic business decision. If you ballpark the salaries of 180 staff factoring in severance, that is a lot of money

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Post ID: @1ldw+P2FiAo2

So our team keeps getting new team members as other coaches get laid off. Here's what I've noticed- every person who has been laid off in round 2 and round 3 are phc's that came from other coaches. If our coach had a say in the layoffs at all, it seems like the ones that the coach knew the longest were favored. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but none of the original team were laid off.

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Post ID: @unv+P2FiAo2

LOL

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Post ID: @nln+P2FiAo2

I was laid off- I consider myself on the road to well being now. This healthcare organization is neither related to health or to care. I feel like a tumor has been excised. I also feel the weight of 10,000 douche bags being lifted

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Post ID: @ajl+P2FiAo2

Wait! I never said I was appreciated, and yeah, our coach threatens us - which is new, actually - but the managing with fear tactics seems to be the new MO now. I just refuse to neglect myself. I also have a family, but they need me healthy.

We shouldn't be comparing our experiences. I just hated hearing someone say they are neglecting themselves for this sh---y company. But appreciated, me? No, not since my previous employer, not with Humana.

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Post ID: @uzb+P2FiAo2

Everyone impacted on our team too we're people who would speak up, in having a very hard time not believing our coach picked them. It's too coincidental

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Post ID: @ief+P2FiAo2

sadly, I am not joking about my "wellbeing." I don't have PTO to take a full day off for a doctor's appt or bloodwork. I was told I can't flex anymore either. Can't leave 30 min early to get to an appt or come in 30 min late to get bloodwork done, but I can work 50+ hours like I have been doing for a while, in a salary position. I need my PTO for real vacation days and family obligations. Taking a day off for the dentist or cardiologist is out of the question too (that requires PTO). I need my job, too many people count on me a roof over their heads and food in their bellies. Oh and hitting numbers? I hit my numbers consistently but then get a FC because I am only at the high minimum range for productivity. I am compared to the highest performer on my team even though it is well known she works well over8 hr days, everyday. None of us can compete with that. I ask questions and get chastised for asking them in meetings-by the same high performer on the team. None of our opinions matter. If you have the PTO to take and can "be well" congratulations. Not all of us have that luxury here. You are probably in a different area than I am. I am glad to hear you are appreciated on your team and still have a job and metrics are not a means to threaten a PIP.

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Post ID: @jix+P2FiAo2

I agree 100%. I am out. I believe they are looking for total and complete compliance and people who are manipulated by fear. If this did not describe your personality and your metrics did not increase in the fearful environment you were out. At least those are my impressions. At first I thought they targeted mostly long timers, but my thoughts have evolved. Long timers are probably less likely to respond to fear tactics for a number of reasons which is why you see many of us exiting along with others who didn't respond well. On top of that rumors of increased PIP's & general hanging threats of job loss. It is evolving very much into a culture of fear now. I can't say I'm sorry to be leaving this situation. I am however sorry to see this is what management is resorting to as so-called motivation. The downside is fear will only make people perform just to the level of keeping a job. It does not "inspire" or promote "thriving together." Show your discontent on Indeed.com company ratings if you are unhappy with the fear culture this far.

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Post ID: @hgg+P2FiAo2

Dr appointments, PTO and bloodwork? Robot monkeys don't need no stinking bloodwork.

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Post ID: @tzm+P2FiAo2

"I stopped asking questions a while back. I do what I am told. I work more than 40 hrs so they can't ever say I never hit 40. I clock in early and stay late each day, stop taking well being, and stopped using PTO. I stopped going to the doctor and incurring medical expenses for the company. No more labs, no more routine tests, no need for PTO or flex time (which was taken away anyway). Hopefully by not costing the company extra money and shutting up, I will be here a bit longer."

Please tell me I'm missing the sarcasm font! Me? I was not impacted, I never work more than 40, I take my breaks, I ask questions and say what I need to say, I go to the Dr even if it means taking a day of pto and I take vacations. Sometimes I don't hit numbers. I'm not ruining my life for this BS company. Please tell me you are joking about not taking care of yourself.

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Post ID: @jdj+P2FiAo2

I speak up too, and I can tell the other people on my team don't want to hear it and neither does the coach. That is too bad because that is how you grow as a person and professional. Questions can even lead to changes in the company that can help change and improve outcomes. That is not the culture here. I stopped asking questions a while back. I do what I am told. I work more than 40 hrs so they can't ever say I never hit 40. I clock in early and stay late each day, stop taking well being, and stopped using PTO. I stopped going to the doctor and incurring medical expenses for the company. No more labs, no more routine tests, no need for PTO or flex time (which was taken away anyway). Hopefully by not costing the company extra money and shutting up, I will be here a bit longer. Thank you, sir, may I have another!?

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Post ID: @tbu+P2FiAo2

There is a scene in the movie half baked (google "scarface quits half baked") and it sums up how me and some of my team members are feeling right now.

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Post ID: @fwg+P2FiAo2

I'm sorry but I absolutely disagree. I respectively speak up regularly and ask questions and some how I'm around. If you speak up and ask questions it is Humanas loss! Don't ever change who you are...you are appreciated and another employer will see the value in that! Best wishes!

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Post ID: @cvj+P2FiAo2

My kids have a book about robot monkeys. I'm pretty sure that's what Humana is trying to build. A team of robot monkeys. The closest thing you can get to auto calls for people who don't like auto calls. Cultivate uniqueness? Rethink routine? Nah, you are a robot monkey or you're out.

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Post ID: @txo+P2FiAo2

No coincidence AT ALL!!! I resigned because my coach targetted me for speaking up, very respectfully though, but I would ask questions! You are to bow your head and say "yes" to everything you are asked to do and not say a single word... on top of that, be a brown noser, stay until 8pm daily, and raise your hand for every single extra project given.... that will keep your amazing coach veeeery happy and pleased and won't target you!

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