Not specifically Intel related - but after the "high tech employee" lawsuit...

... All tech company's employees are directly affected and inexorably interconnected because "hey - Where ya gonna go?". I thought I saw some posts about this relative to Intel lately. Article source at bottom:

"Most recently, Breitbart Texas reported how the Microsoft Corporation is expected to lay-off up to 3,000 American employees as the tech conglomerate continues to request and hire foreign workers through various visa programs, such as the H-1B.

Executives said employees working outside the U.S. would be the most impacted, but did also confirm that about 25 percent of the lay-offs would impact employees working stateside.

As the tech giant is performing lay-offs, foreign workers through the H-1B visa and Optional Practical Training (OPT) program continue to be hired by the corporation.

In 2016, Microsoft was the ninth-largest requester for foreign workers under the H-1B visa, asking for a whopping 4,575 workers. In 2017, Microsoft increased their requests, demanding more than 5,000. "

Source : http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/07/12/philips-moving-200-u-s-manufacturing-jobs-germany/

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When I received my check last year it was like 700000 pennies from heaven

Well whaddya know - an article just today on how Work Visas hurt everyone but the employers and the wealthy.

Granted this article and study is for blue collar/ farming / and H2B visas but is one more datapoint in a much bigger picture.

Wages Dropping in Jobs Prone to Work Visas, Says Expert -

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/07/13/wages-dropping-jobs-prone-work-visas-says-expert/

1sht....when it comes to product deadline crunch time, I don't see particularly H1Bs stay and work any later or over the weekend more so than all the responsible US citizens working on the same project.

That said, I have noticed that with a overseas team, where I can employer 3 people.for the price of 1 person here, whether H1B or not, I can have almost 24/7 crunching overseas at a pretty cheap cost, which is particularly useful if all my customers are in Taiwan, Korea, China, which have 7 day work weeks to make a smartphone.

Why has Intel moved so many Costa Ricans to USA (Santa Clara, Chandler) via inter-company transfer so they may earn higher American salary ? I thought purpose of moving business to CR was to make a cost saving.

You all live in the same dream world. Get over it.

@Oeteh8P-lxw - you are completely correct about uprooting teams and moving them overseas.

However the increased value an H1B has to a company is an intangible value. Quite simply - they are more easily used and exploited. I know I can pressure my H1B's to work nights, weekends, give up holidays, etc. - I can then use that as leverage against his or her fellow team members.

And offshore now doesn't mean India. Eastern Europe is much cheaper.

This is what I find funny about ignorant H1B complainers. They really don't understand how this game works.

Big companies like Intel and Qualcomm and avago don't save money by hiring H1Bs....they save money by moving an entire operation overseas, so they can pay local wages and (lack thereof) benefits. Big companies that aren't a consulting company can'tl easily get away with abusing the H1B system. Small companies and outsourcing companies do. That's why you can report all you want against Intel or Qualcomm or Avago or other large company. And waste all your time....because there is an entire legal team that already checked what they are doing is legal. There is no conspiracy. If you want to complain, coming about moving the entire development to a remote location. That's the real problem.

I was once a senior level hands on engineer. I moved into architecture and management. I miss being hands on, but short of doing it off to the side as hobby and doing prototypes, the days of well paid hands on people on the US are numbered I less you are really really good. And most of you aren't.

These days, it's far easier if I come up with the product ideas, build a non production POC. And then throw it to.a development team abroad that can implement a spec, throw some resources to test and shake out all the bugs...

If all you can do is code and or design a tiny piece of the hardware , your days off high compensation are numbered.

The reality is...moving forward. Only really good engineers america will be able to demand top compensation in this field. If you aren't at the top of your game, you won't get paid a lot.

It's no different than everything else. Athletics. Same thing. Doctors same thing. Dentists same thing.

Americans have to come to terms that unless you can actually perform better than everyone else, you won't be paid better than everyone else eventually.

....or you lower the standard of living here.

.or you crush the value of the is dollar with inflation.

That's reality

@fds. I think for most people, this collusion did minimal to impact our compensation. It certainly didnt for me...when I looked for a job (and I am always looking for something better), I had more than one company write me an offer and just like selling a home where you have multiple offers, you counteroffer.and ask for more. When I switch companies , I always get at least 25%

@Oeteh8P-fds I think you missed the point. The point being that even though it is Microsoft the offshoring of jobs and employment opportunities for high-tech & skilled employees affects us all.

I got a sweet cut of the big payday for the lawyers of that myself - but I am not foolish enough to believe that on the board of directors, executive management, or senior management levels that these companies are not still engaging with each other under the table to control the industry's labor costs - and your and my career opportunities. They have simply enacted policies and procedures to limit their liabilities and enable "plausible deniability" controls.

This is why a $75K engineer in the US is more expensive (and less desirable) than a $75K H1B or offshored engineer.

Oh. And I didn't have a problem finding a job at one of those companies that were on the defendant list afterwards. They paid me even more.

Well. I got a $5000 check in the mail I think last year. Didn't do anything. I guess by default you were opted in.

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