Thread regarding Humana Inc. layoffs

Healthy before Humana... not anymore :(

Reposting from someone who wrote this a few posts below:

"I was healthy when I started at Humana. Anytime I had a checkup, I could always race through the patient forms because there were no boxes to check off. Last summer my coach started using a threatening tone if we didn't hit the numbers, basically insinuating the company would let us go if we didn't hit 10, but 10 really wasn't good enough, and we would be "safer" if we hit 11. I stopped taking breaks and lunches and wellness time. Fast forward to this summer, blood sugar so high at last checkup, doctor says prediabetes.

My doctor says that you can reach prediabetic levels relatively quickly if you are sedentary much of the day, she says this "sitting disease" has dire consequences.

Needless to say, I now take breaks, lunches, I never work over, and no - I pretty much never hit 11 contacts any more. Not worth it. If this means I am not "safe," so be it. My health is more important."

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Post ID: @OP+O2PJwWD

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MF said it stress is self imposed? DO you know what gas lighting is? Is when someone tells you that you are the blame for all the things that are going wrong. You yourself. This is abuse.

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Post ID: @iviu+O2PJwWD

To recent post mentioning pet peeve, I agree with you! The constant movement of mbrs is ridiculous. We will never be able to build continuty this way and truly help them. When we have a good coach and you have built a relationship with her, she gets changed. When you have a good team that works well together, it gets divided! How ridiculous this all is?

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Post ID: @4qky+O2PJwWD

*fired

(Prev post)

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Post ID: @4mwb+O2PJwWD

If you are tired with cause they can and will deny unemployment. If you are denied for any other reason, be sure to appeal. The odds are more on your side for a positive resolution than Humana's side!

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Post ID: @3tmf+O2PJwWD

My pet peeve with my former employer Humana....revolves around knee jerk decisions to move members around at will and break up cohesive teams just because a Com decides to screw with people's lives. I was moved after4 1/2 years to a micromanaging Hitler. She dissected every single word that was documented. FYI- Humana WILL deny your unemployment!!!!

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Post ID: @3tkg+O2PJwWD

I agree last post, and it seems Humana is not getting the hint that their pressure and abuse is not working and many wonderful and competent employees are leaving because of it!!!!

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Post ID: @1xoj+O2PJwWD

We had four people leave from our team in the last three weeks and several others have gone on medical leave. HCM RN 's are still leaving in large numbers. They have hired more but they still don't fill the number of vacancies that exist. I'm not sure Humana is really hiring because we are growing they are just replacing who has left

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Post ID: @1ctw+O2PJwWD

Well said, last posters. I'm not sure I "get" the motivation for kicking people while they're down.

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Post ID: @1tqu+O2PJwWD

Out of curiosity - to the poster who told people their stress and illness is self imposed and telling others to find other work... did YOU find other work? If so, why are you here? Or are you happy at Humana? If so, why are you here? It seems that some people come here just to be sanctimonious and I don't believe that is in any way helpful to anyone. If someone is here sharing their experience, it isn't anyone's job to tell them their experience and feelings aren't valid. We don't have to agree with everyone, but if what we do say isn't helpful, why say anything at all? And also, with the sheer volume of people sharing the OP sentiments - it seems you occasional holier than thou people are highly out numbered by the majority who feel exhausted, depleted, scared and hurt. I agree everyone who is scared should look for other work - but shaming someone for becoming ill from stress isn't helpful. It's cruel. If you enjoy Humana stay and perhaps spend your free time off the "Layoff" website! Be well.

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Post ID: @1mqw+O2PJwWD

I remember at at an all associates meeting several months ago, a question was raised about the increased levels of stress felt by staff. MF said that perhaps it is self-imposed.

Perhaps. Perhaps being told that your job is on the line if a certain number of people don't answer the phone (along with many other factors) should be taken in stride. Perhaps, if you skip a lunch because you are nervous about your mortgage after being threatened by your coach, it's all on you. Perhaps Humana leadership bears no responsibility for promoting this environment of fear and threats (not all managers, of course, but let's not pretend that these threats don't occur, just ask around).

Perhaps, your fear of losing your job, in the middle of a year during which you've seen so many let go, is all in your head. Perhaps your inability to relax and walk away from the phone - shrug it all off - is a personal flaw and in no way a rational response to the stress of job instability.

I suppose one could argue these things. One could argue that Humana leadership are simply innocent bystanders, here to support you while you self destruct, or simply a business with no responsibility to contribute to the quality of any employee's life.

I'm inclined to believe otherwise. I am inclined to have empathy for those who are having a tough time with their leader's ominous threats. I am inclined to believe that Humana leadership is very aware of the percentage of staff that are skipping breaks and lunches and working extra hours. I am inclined to believe that they just don't give a crap.

You can argue that they are a business and it's not their job to give a crap about the health and wellness of staff. You may be right. But let's not pretend we are thriving in a "culture of health." Let's not pretend they care about staff retention, or how that affects the members. If this is what we've come to accept in the corporate world, so be it, but let's not fault one another for the so-called "self-imposed" stress that results from it all.

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Post ID: @1qbh+O2PJwWD

I agree no professional support here its been so much more focus on work work work ...and pretend to care. We had ALOT better management that used actual professional incentives to help us make this program great now it's all gone...everyday you hope you don't get chastised for not doing something right that was just just changed without notifying you first...ridiculous environment but on 1 family income right now

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Post ID: @xbs+O2PJwWD

I agree no professional support here it work work work ...and pretend to care

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Post ID: @cnt+O2PJwWD

To the poster criticizing (there is always one), read OP's pasted post again. The point of the post is that they take breaks, lunches, time away from desk now.

When you have a family to support and your manager is telling you you are not "safe" without surpassing peer expectations, it damn sure results in some associates neglecting themselves.

Did Humana leadership create that environment or is this the result of some coaches gone rogue, chasing pay increases? I guess you can debate both sides, but the OP copied post does not go into that, it's about choosing health and time away from the desk over caving to the threats of certain managers. Read the post again.

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Post ID: @aiz+O2PJwWD

If you get sick humana will just put another body in your place. Take your wellness, lunch and breaks.

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Post ID: @qwk+O2PJwWD

Well last post,

The pressure is on and they applaud those who are making extra calls even when they work 3 hrs extra and don't take breaks or lunch. The nature of our job makes it more than sedentary because we are not even taking our wellness hr since we have not enough hrs to make all the calls required.

But more than standing up... it's the constant stress and fear!!!

And yes, believe me, working on getting another job.

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Post ID: @thh+O2PJwWD

How is this Humana's fault? I have the same job but manage to get up and move around. I stand during some calls. Sounds to me like people want to blame everything on Humana. I was not forced to do this job, I knew what was involved when I saw the call center, there is enough information online to tell you this stuff. Stop complaining and get another job if that's what it takes.

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Post ID: @cpt+O2PJwWD

Ugh. This is heartbreaking. I never pushed for numbers. I always took my breaks daily regardless of my numbers. And I wasn't a top performer. But you know what, I didn't care. I didn't drink the kool aid and I constantly reminded myself that this job is a small blip of my life and it would be terrible to allow it to make me ill. Plus it was my way of taking back control - they weren't going to win the mind games with me. Ironically, I am health coaching still but in a much healthier and happier setting. I work with pre-diabetes and diabetes. My hours aren't documented by aux codes and my boss appreciates every single thing that I do. Better is out there. I wish both of you the best in your health and future!!!

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Post ID: @wzm+O2PJwWD

I was told the same thing last summer by my doctor with the prediabetes and being sedentary. I'm actively looking for a new job that does not require me sitting.

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