I know many managers who got hired on h1b visas are more underpaid than the new hires under them. Isn't that wrong?
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Absolutely. I was talking recently to an Oracle employee of 22 years. She was a developer, who really should have had the ability to move into a management role.... but she says there is no way to move up, everything is static in this area. No doubt that adds to the back-stabbing and manipulation that goes on. No one moves up, until they decapitate someone else.
Not to mention that there ARE NO women managers in this area at all..... Indian men only, most of them incompetent.
A Fk up system. Favor the hiring of h1b managers is sinister and self cursing. Essentially devs have no promotional paths. So why work hard or work at all? Studying interview questions yields higher results. The entire management tree needs to be removed. LE needs to pull a Steve Jobs now.
H-1B's have become all but irrelevant due to the virtual presence nature of much of the work. Location means nothing - only the ability to communicate in Oracl-ese. Oracle is actively reducing the headcount of American engineers in favor of Mexican engineers during the AMER shift, the same way that UK engineers were replaced with IDC engineers several years ago.
Every manager I worked with at Oracle was incompetent. The vast majority of them were Indian. Perhaps Oracle should spend some money on American managers who might be able to do more than just say "yes" to the manager above them and manipulate and control the people below them.
Indian culture does not allow people below to question people above. U.S. culture prides itself on speaking truth to power. These two things don't mix. This is one of the problems at Oracle. People brought from India are not aware of the differences and resent U.S. developers who speak up. The developers expect to be rewarded for pointing out or correcting problems.
I would guess that seeing their developers make more than them would only add to the resentment of those seemingly out-of-control developers.
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I think most Jobs in America are overpaid. The truth hurts. Admit it! Would you pay someone the kind of money for the work you currently do? Not even MH or SC. We all should be thankful for Big O and our customers.
Wrong indeed! They should NOT hire H1B as managers to begin with. Hire Americans🇺🇸
Do you mean they are paid less than the staff they manage or that the amount they are underpaid is greater than the amount their staff are underpaid by?
In either case I don't see why being a manger should mean more pay. Surely going to internal meetings to arrange further internal meetings, authorising expenses and filling in spreadsheets to take to the internal meeting is less valuable than being able to do a productive days work. Most managers in O' are glorified administrators with no managerial skills and zero leadership.