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The main reasons OPC failed to gain traction were...

We can say that the OPC products matured by now, BM yet to come. The main reasons OPC failed to gain traction were lack of features/unstable and lack of service expertise within Oracle. Pre-sales would not be able to implement required architectures, while some of the ones they did implement were lost soon after by support, as the cloud customers run away when they see the ongoing quality support has to offer. Seems like these will get addressed starting June 1st.

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Post ID: @OP+NlCt3KA

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Sad and very telling that the on-premier product were much better than the new cloud ones, then again all the on-prem products were acquired, Siegel, JD Edwards, PeopleSoft ...,

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Post ID: @4vid+NlCt3KA

If TK would put more stable cloud products out there and if they would let the few consultants and support engineers who performed well (probably no more than a handful of them) to lead the teams on the services side, the cloud products would take off. Otherwise the old guard does what it knows best, soft talk and no work.

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Post ID: @4vdn+NlCt3KA

Late to market. So immature products, with overlapping features. Shadow of their on prem counterparts. Stingy investment in data centers given many customers are in regulated industries. Need I go on?

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Post ID: @4ikf+NlCt3KA

Bad management will f: up a company every time

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Post ID: @1jko+NlCt3KA

Maybe because management has no vision? Too focused on cost cutting instead of innovation?

Oracle refuses to pull the plug on failing projects like Fusion? Oracle is losing customers by killing EBS instead of building on it? managers are promoted because they have been there for a long time not because they are good managers and leaders? (some of this can't even speak a full damn sentence!!)

Maybe because employees have not seen a damn raise in 10 years since SC because the president???

JUST MAYBE!!

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Post ID: @1dni+NlCt3KA

Look at how much more - tens of billions - real cloud companies are spending. Oracle trying to do it on the cheap not working.

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Post ID: @1qxw+NlCt3KA

I agree with management being a reason, however some good things happened recently on the service side with the ops cleanup for example. Support's management is toxic and blissfully ignorant while presales have to do post to keep the customers happy, which means less time for new prospects. So far BM is a different story and many efforts go towards keeping it this way. Overall I think Oracle will do better down the line.

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Post ID: @1pfc+NlCt3KA

Product management is bad at oracle. That's another reason. They keep their knowledge under their belt and the feet on the ground is clueless!

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Post ID: @1qzo+NlCt3KA

The CIO are not dumb. Once they look at AWS (or Azure for Window services), why would they want OPC? The only companies pick OPC are those who are already locked in Oracle DB. Amazon is moving way too fast in the cloud space. There is no way Oracle can catch that. Even if Oracle buys Rackspace, they still have less than 5% cloud market share.

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Post ID: @1glk+NlCt3KA

TK did not commit the resources to make it a compelling product. It was a lack of commitment and investment that sunk it. They will need to acquire their way to innovation and growth. They are too far behind to do anything else. They have all that cash. Instead of burning it on buy backs, they should use it to make acquisition. Not a $100 million or $1 billion one. They need to do something substantially larger. The problem is there are not that many companies out there to give them what they need. If someone built something technically impressive, it could be sold, but it would just be ruined in the end unless tactics change. These acquisitions aren't very strategic outside of the NetSuite deal, which was very very expensive but they had no choice.

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Post ID: @1oee+NlCt3KA

This was a comment of mine posted on https://www.thelayoff.com/t/NlrMllk

Either the layoff website is buggy or someone decided to create a new thread out of it, which makes no sense. Probably that's why the number of threads on the Oracle forum is so high, the comments get re-posted as new threads.

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