Let's face it, smart VP's are setting up for the next 10% layoff by shuttling targeted people into expendable positions.
The situation I strongly suspect I find myself in.
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In our BU last August, we weren't asked to reduce headcount but the mgr told me he used it as an opportunity to get rid of a couple people. Then the job posting for those vacated positions went out a few months later.
Rediculous why retraining isn't a cultural norm
Look at your own quality metrics. The staff wasn't trained in the first place. Who will retrain them?
Agree with the retrain aspect. Retrain instead of LR. If you can't cut the requirements, then you get bottom 5% or PIP'd. Rediculous why retraining isn't a cultural norm, especially as new technologies roll out. Maybe a future Cisco Beat topic? Yeah...sure...we're family...right John?
other BU's hiring while you are getting the pink slip is a big joke. When I got laid off i applied to so many internal position they are either too late to respond and schedule interview or would just abruptly stop the process. Not sure if the positions the BU's are hiring for is real or not.
Industries change, technologies change, and society changes.
Interesting read, but despite all this, Cisco could and should care about its employees. Instead of laying them off, Cisco should re-train them. There are always BUs hiring while others are laying off.
No rumours please, if you have info from reliable source then only post here, when is the next black day with 10% head count reduction ?
The real question now is how much of that legacy can shift to being a market leader software company...
The SA runs say "not much." If Cisco can't get it right with a decade of training wheels and gutter guards the future doesn't look extra shiny.
As someone myself LR'd, all this change, resulting in my own being chosen to leave, along with the ongoing revenue shifting; is not the fault of my management, Cisco's executives, or myself. Industries change, technologies change, and society changes. This is all the next shift to a low-cost, easier-to-implement, and extremely less-hardware requiring network driven world. I think Cisco will be able to adapt and survive, but it will be a painful financial diet that will consume many headcount. It's all migrating to being able to be done more simply and less expensive. Exacting hardware that performs a must-have function was Cisco's forte. The real question now is how much of that legacy can shift to being a market leader software company that makes must-have networking products, in an environment of cheaper competition and cheap hardware to implement solutions on. Who knows what will happen; I agree it is interesting reading all the commentary. Like life, in the end, we only have ourselves to rely on. Cisco was and is a great company, but when one really thinks about their own chosen path to work here, it's ultimately their own responsibility for where career and life goes...so don't blame the company; it's no one's fault...it's each of our choices to work here. Peace.
@uxf is the same person who is going around on other threads trolling about H1b and indians. I am guessing, he is a Fired employee who couldnt land any other job , so continues to blames his sorry life's failures on any excuse he can find. Surprised if he is still married.
I love this site. Its like listening to wannabe football managers talking in a pub. They always know best. Bloody management are sh--. Anyone who is a VP is sh--. Directors are all sh--. Bloody company is sh--. Company has no innovation. Products are outdated.... on and on it goes.
Why don't the moaners leave?? Oh yes, benefits are too good, salaries are competitive, I'm too lazy to go job hunt...bla bla bla.
Isn't "smart VPs" an oxymoron at Cisco?
Yeah, my manager suspects the same is being done to our complete group. So, we've come to an arrangement where we take on all his real work and he spends the next weeks trying to get us into a positive "front of mind" of the execs. We're in a very large BU which has been reorged into a state of chronic dysfunctionality and bizarre "hard metrics" are now all that's important, rather than looking after customers and building better products.
I know of one older guy who was moved recently from our team to some other lil project. That dude has been on the team for the past 10yrs, he was obnoxious to work with.
Not new. This has been going on for 5 years. Happened to several friends.