AT&T White box end-to-end test should scare Cisco, Juniper alike.
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AT&T came up with this concept of Domain 2.0 - this supposedly means that AT&T will not purchase any equipment that isn't basically open-sourced, meaning: Merchant Silicon Network Processor, Intel compatible control plane processor, based on Linux Kernel, etc.
This idea is based on the "softwarization" and "commoditization" of their network infrastructure. Their idea is that it will help drive the industry to one day being all white box networks running specialised software.
Is it valid? I think not - people forget that serious switching still requires proper and serious hardware support, although at the low end, it might fly (but that part of the market is already cheap, cheap). But I think it's just some latest fashion, and probably not sustainable.
The trend for the last 30+ years has been to dispense with non-core competency - and yet here is a customer who wants to own all the tasks of building and supporting their own network boxes.
These AT&T executives are a bunch of fools. They need to learn from their counterparts in Verizon. How could they be so naive to trust these Cisco Indians who are selling them NCS55xx garbage!?
And ATT will find out sooner than later that they end up with their own bloated control code.
AT&T Executives came to Cisco multiple times to teach high school level skills to whole development teams because they were sick of dealing with what they were being sold. If they can hire and properly manage people with those skills they'll never have the mess that Cisco created.
@2qls you just read what you like to see in the text? Of course the hardware business is declining. At the same time we have heard the "Cisco is dead soon" since years. It's nonsense. I agree with your software consultancy idea but this does not mean hardware is obsolete. Cisco is (as usual) slow in realizing they need to simplify their hardware structure; that does not mean they will not do it.
This particular customer has very specific ideas how things should work - they are better off doing it themselves. As I said, good luck to them. Cisco is better off using the engineering resources on other customers. Yes, it's a revenue hit. Life goes on.
@2qvs sounds like your typical Cisco negative Charlie just looking for a quick one liner to try to save face. Cisco knows the hardware business is going away and the rest of the industry. From a business perspective look for partnerships with ISPs and Cisco becoming more of a software consultant and selling more services. We will see more acquisitions and more layoffs in the hardware side.
This kind of uninformed article shows everything that is wrong with the technology press. They don't understand what they are writing about. Okay, businessinsider is a joke anyway ... .
Sure, this will hurt Cisco. At the same time it allows Cisco to free up resources that are used today to implement requests from ATT and which are often useless for anyone else. And ATT will find out sooner than later that they end up with their own bloated control code.
And for the Agile discussion: http://www.agilesparks.com/ATT-DotanNaveh/ ...
Agile will burn out your developers and kill your QA. I now ask companies if their product is developed in a Agile environment. If yes we say thanks but no thanks we do not have time to do their QA.
Agile in itself is a good, ...
Agile tl;dr is "everything perfectly for nothing." The unrelated processes which don't solve for the self contradicting platitudes of the Agile Manifesto come from car companies trying to optimize robotic tasks spoon fed to people who will never develop the skills to break down and manage far larger tasks.
Agile in itself is a good, it's just that we've got armies of Directors who when it comes to Agile development only know the word "Agile" itself plus a few others like velocity. They've got no idea how to actually implement or optimize it. I've seen BUs using tools based on the direction of the uninformed and inexperienced directors but against the experienced recommendations of all the engineers.
1nbn - ageist much? Worked with a lot of 20 somethings at cisco that matched your description
When I hear "agile" reminds me of a creepy 45 year old guy lost in the 80s rocking a mullet with a fat mustache trying to pick up girls in their 20s in a broke down 1978 firebird.
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ATT&T R&D don't bully their engineers with agile bs developmet. Agile just turns development environments into a stressful toxic poor working environment. Been there done that it just does not work. Every time I hear a manager use the word agile I laugh and smh.
Good luck on buying those Broadcom stocks. Since it was already bought out a couple of years back.
Time to sell My Cisco shares and start buying Broadcom. Cisco is dead in 5 years. It will only take one SP and the share price will plummet.