Yes. Chickens came home to roost. Not because of your statement at the World Economic Forum "It's up to leaders in this room, particularly in the technology field, to think 'How do we help manage the transition of people who have been disrupted by robotics or automation' – which, by the way, is a far bigger cause of job losses in the US than economic globalisation." YOU GOT IT MOSTLY WRONG!!! What caused the chickens to come home to roost was because the GREED CORPORATE MACHINE who collectively BRIBED politicians to promote HYPER FREE TRADE agendas NOT just robotics or automation. BILLIONAIRS like the Koch Brothers, George Soros, and MEG have DONATED MILLIONS for their own INTERESTS have BRIBED politicians in BOTH parties. You guys never attempted to ADVOCATE for the LOWER and MIDDLE CLASS, but rather to INCREASE your BOTTOM LINE!. The only way this gets fixed is if the middle and lower class had an EQUAL voice. We all know that the CEO's and their CORPORATE MACHINES have the most influence all created by your DONATIONS. Greedy corporations will feel the pain when WE THE PEOPLE stand up. We need SELF-LESS Corporations who work for ALL interests for the UPPER CLASS, MIDDLE CLASS and the LOWER CLASS. Corporations like TESLA who keep AMERICAN JOBS here to make our own products which the AMERICANS will buy. BUT collectively its those greedy CORPORATE MACHINES and GREEDY CEO's like MEG who CREATED this and now the SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT! Meg and other CEO's alike, have no one to blame but themselves and those that advocated to move jobs offshore. Accept your responsibilities to your workers or pay consequences when the "Chickens come home to roost". It is FACT that MILLIONS of jobs moved offshore, not just robotics and automation. You are full of garbage and we see through you. Hope that all your plans in MEXICO and other countries pay HUGE repercussions for keeping jobs offshore and advocating for it. HPE had a vast amount of JOBS that you shipped. That is fact. Screw MEG and her support for the status quo. I'm glad the situation has got you back peddling. HPE workers need to stand up against your corruption.
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@3fev...I agree 1000 percent with what you said.
@3fev who said "Those who believe that isolationism will lead to prosperity are flat out wrong." Again another simplistic statement. Its not as simple as "Black & White". You are again thinking one-dimentionally. We have always had trade around the world. So its not isolationism that I want, its about fair shot at being able to provide for my family and being able to secure a decent job. Like the fellow 2 comments down stated, "re-negotiate". This is not isolationism. China has the better end of the stick and we know it. They do what is in the best interest of their country....we dont. For decades, our POLITICIAN have been doing what is in the best interest of the wealth donors and corporations, not for us regular American workers. There needs to be a fair standard that works for the American worker, not unregulated Hyper Trade rules that are out of control. You cant have a prosperous America if poverty is increasing and the INCOME INEQUALITY gap is GROWING for the Middle and Lower class. Rebellions grow this way. When people get choked, they begin to rebel. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A MOVEMENT on both sides of the isle from the far left to the far right. Bernie Sanders and Trump are the manifestations of America's frustrations. Now its time to reap what the politicians and the corporations have sown. FAIR TRADE, one that benefits the American workers, not Free Trade that benefits everyone else but us Americans.
Those who believe that isolationism will lead to prosperity are flat out wrong. Our economic well-being depends on having healthy trade relationships with other nations. Now that's not to suggest that our current trade arrangements are optimal, but closing our borders to all immigrants and trade would lead to an economic depression like we've never seen.
Ethics. Where is your corporate ethics HPE you so deeply advertise. Dig deep and you will see zero. All the good corporate people have left pushed out by you. Now you are left holding the leftovers and/or those brainwashed employees who don't know better or are just plain scared. These people built great corporations and now they are useless all of a sudden. Hypocrisy reigns on the left. How sad.
American workers cannot compete with the 1.35 billion Chinese population and the 1.25 billion Indian population labor machine. These people work so cheap that 1 American worker could pay for 10+ foreign workers.<<
Yep and American corps got caught red handed using child/slave labor. Take a look at Chinese air pollution/water pollution. How bout fellas leaping off of buildings, particularly Foxconn.
These trade deals are so lopsided against Americans. One word...."re-negotiate".
Americans cannot compete with child labor, slave labor, countries with little worker safety regs/environmental regs, countries that steal our intellectual properties and copy. Instead of negotiating FAIR trade deals, American corps promoted these behaviors listed above to grow the bottom line. Wealth never trickles down to those who are the productive. Take the talking points when NAFTA was being debated in the U.S. congress. First, NAFTA would raise the standard of living for the average Mexican worker, thereby helping improve illegal immigration.....Both, lies! Americans want cheaper goods....lie! If Americans knew their wages would plummet/massive outsourcing, would they have agreed? Doing the jobs Americans won't do....lie! Look at the state of the inner cities. The American black community has been hit the hardest.
Visit China.......but don't forget to bring bottled water and a gas mask.
@1kdz, "Global trade deals work in both directions" is also a simplistic statement. I dont disagree with you that we should trade globally. But it is not as Black and White. American workers cannot compete with the 1.35 billion Chinese population and the 1.25 billion Indian population labor machine. These people work so cheap that 1 American worker could pay for 10+ foreign workers. To have Globalization prosper, we cant ourselves gut ourselves of jobs. Its an insane notion. But we are doing it in a way that is too fast too soon type of pace. Its like I want to help out a homeless person, but I cant just drain my bank account and give him everything. Same thing. World prosperity needs to happen in a more controlled way such that we not dilute ourselves of decent jobs. Now I am willing to give that homeless man about $40, but not the whole damn $1000. Yes, America is 5% of the worlds population, but to have that 5% feed the rest of the world will have negative profound effects on the American. We need to maybe work with small amounts at a time and that is why FAIR TRADE is a better concept. We need to have countries who are willing to do business with us play by the same rules, good working conditions like here, proper currency controls such that there is no manipulation, and allow for a certain percentage of jobs move not the entire company, etc. Regulations are key here. But it must be done right. But what we have decimated the American workforce and people are growing irrational, frustrated, because they've literally been robbed by the corporate machine. Corporations want it all without consideration of the HUMAN BEING. And that is where the disconnect lies.
@igng - you are reacting to simplistic campaign sound-bites and not thinking this globalization phobia all the way through. Putting American workers first is a great philosophy and Trump was able to ride that hot button all the way to the White House. But Americans are only 5% of the world's population, we need the rest of the world as customers or none of us will have a job, regardless of the industry. Global trade deals work in both directions, stopping imported goods means those impacted countries will stop buying American made goods - then what?
What we've seen over the last three decades is the globalist agenda. No borders, no patriotism. Attempting to protect workers in America is labeled protectionism....as if this is a bad thing. Oh, the horror. I loved Trump's inaugaration speech. I hope and pray he means every word of it. This perverted globalism has eroded the greatest middle class the world has ever known. The greatest transfer of wealth the world has ever witnessed....from the American middle class to the communist Chinese government. American corps should be ashamed for what they've done to the air/water/land in mainland China. Just disgraceful. Many American corps were busted utilizing near slave/child labor and paid NO penalties what so ever. It's time for AMERICA FIRST. AMERICAN WORKER FIRST. To hell with globalism.
Government is drag on all people even government themselves. Our constitution was written based on the individual rights and not the government as a whole. Drug pricing should not be governed by government. How is a company to recoup costs? costs for anything? Does anyone have CLUE what a clinical trial costs for example. Does government pay for anything that a drug company does? Drug pricing is a fine art just like college tuition, automobile stick prices, home prices etc. Why doesn't to government get involved in THAT because it is controlled by competition, people, global issues etc. Let things fall where they may. No one is forcing you to work for HPE or any other company right. It's called freedom. KEEP Government out of everything. Leggie Meggie do her thing with HPE. She thinks she has a clue what she is doing but in the end it will turn out to be one big cluster fork unfortunately. She has never had to work a day in her life where her life and family depended on it. She comes from a priviledge family like most CEO's come from.
To the poster that stated "Good post but... A millennial did NOT write this." Yes I am a millennial. I am in my early 30's. But that is flattering. Thank you!
To the poster that stated "Govetnment does not create jobs. Free people with the government off their back create jobs." I'd have to somewhat disagree with some of that. I am both a Capitalist and a Socialist. You are also. If you are anti Free Trade, then that works against Capitalism as Free Trade generally creates an atmosphere of more money for the corporation in the form of lower taxes from other countries that they settle in as well as cheap labor. If you are against Big Pharma price gouging then it requires the government to get involved. Which makes you a Socialist in that regards. I dont understand why people have this misconception that we dont need the government to regulate things. We do. It just depends on how and what it regulates and what it manifests into. If you want roads, you need to collect taxes for it, and capitalist corporations are not willing to pay for it because it costs them money, so you need the government to regulate the collection of the funds to create those roads. So you need both. You cant have a 100% purely capitalist society and think that it wont harm people. It will if it goes unchecked. You need a balance of Capitalism and Socialism, one that works in harmony.
Good post but... A millennial did NOT write this. Millennials don't know what the machine means nor do we use the expression "chickens came home to roost." We don't even know what that means. This was written in language that's not used by 20-somethings.
Point taken, though.
Obama is gone finally. 8 years of his BS and liberal fixes really has done a whack job on this country. It's Trump's turn. 1st day reverse all those execuitve orders and stimulate those external forces so this country can start churning out jobs again. I have been fortunate enough to see both great times and not so great times. Trump is the mechanism and he has got the liberals worried because HE just might succeed. GLTA even those who still work for HPE.
Its actually the ridiculous corporate tax and endless regulations that stunt job growth. We havent had a truly free market in over a hundred years. The only purpise of our corrupt government is to protect the citizens freedom and let us pursue happiness. Thats it. Nada mas. 100 years of socialism trying to tell others how to live their livrs is what ruins an economy
Govetnment does not create jobs. Free people with the government off their back create jobs.
Although this post definitely has a "political rant" approach, it does make you wonder seriously about the role politics and the new administration will have on HPE and the future of it's various spin-offs, mergers, acquisitions, etc. For instance, Meg's switch to the Hillary team might impact HPE's ability to retain existing government contracts and get new ones. She was conspicuously absent from Trump's meeting with Silicon Valley "Icons", but that is fitting since she is anything but an icon. Maybe he'll have a meeting with Silicon Valley greedy hacks. She'll be in the front row for that one!! Hope they crack down on H1B Visa abuse as well, that will definitely put a cramp in HPE's operating model.
Good post