Thread regarding Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) layoffs

The TRUMP effect.

First I want to note that I hope Trump does well as our President. I see many biased comments here about Trump and I understand why. I understand because many of our JOBS have been moved in favor of cheap foreign labor and cheaper foreign taxes and this has a major impact on our financial well being. There is one thing that we must not lose sight of, and that is the overall health of the American people. Whether it be family, jobs, our future, and our children.

I truly hope that Trump has a profound effect on HPE and companies like it who chose to outsource and offshore. That he will spark jobs to come back. But jobs are only as good if the company remains viable and healthy. Otherwise, if they go bankrupt, we still lose out. With that being said, I think that the stigma that FREE TRADE has created for us Americans, is and isn't somewhat misguided. For example, if we completely isolate China and completely pull out of trading with them, they are now set to develop and innovate just as we have been doing all along. That they can set the FREE TRADE rules with their other countries partnerships and expand influence with their technologies as ours will be isolated within our own borders. So I would say, yes, we need to take care of us Americans first, but as we do, there is nothing wrong with getting our unemployment healthy again and slowly allow some FAIR TRADE (not Free Trade), so that we remain relevant on the world stage. China now has an aggressive clean energy initiative and are now targeting fossil fuels in an effort to eliminate pollution and help with climate change. But WE are going backwards on renewable energy. We are promoting fossil fuels AND giving them huge subsidies while we contemplate on eliminating clean energy incentives. At some point, electric cars are going to be cheaper than our current combustion engine cars due to the advancement in technology. If China figures out a way to make their electric cars cheaper and we do not promote electric cars or renewable energy well here in the US, they will also surpass us in AUTO technology and we will find ourselves without international customers while all the rest of the world will just buy cars from China and India and not us. This is why Trump can have a huge impact on our futures economically. Now, I side with Trump on his anti-Free Trade economics simply because he wants to make it fair, not completely get rid of it. In regards to immigration, I agree that we have a problem with this issue. BUT I dont think IMMIGRATION has the level of impact the way FREE TRADE does. For one, there are at the highest estimates, about 20 million illegals that live here. About half of them are of working age. That would be 10 million. There are about 138 million non-farm jobs in America. If illegals took some of that, it would not be as much of an impact as over an estimated 123 million outsourced jobs or created foreign jobs by American companies. The point is that TRUMP should concentrate more on FAIR TRADE agendas and make if way more favorable to the U.S., as opposed to focusing so much time on immigration.

Now, although I hope Trump does well as our president, he worries the hell out of me. The last thing I would want is for him to be impeached. If that happens, then we are handing the government back to the establishment who are majority corrupt and not focused on the interests of the people. But TRUMP is walking a thin like with the ban, and his relationship with Russia. Only 1 month into office, and he is already raising eyebrows negatively. His favorably rating is the worst compared to past presidents in their first month in office. If he continues towards this path, dont think for a second that his own party wont turn on him only to favor Mike Pence who will play ball with the rest of the corrupt in office. TRUMP is on unstable ground, and he needs to be careful for HPE's and the rest of the people's sake.

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Post ID: @OP+LWh3mks

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"Trump throws the media off course so he can devote his time to succeed with his agenda." That's right by spending his weekend "golfing" with his buddies and tacking on a tax bill on you and rest of us that he will be the guy laughing with the golden parachute! Imagine this life, ugly wife in that ugly Trump tower building and his family constantly roaming around the US and the world on business trips at our expense. Sure this is going against the status quo. It goes beyond it at tax payers expense! He's still a reality show star who'll pick on the good performers and have the peons battle against one another, while he amass more fortune the way he's done for so many of his shady businesses. LOL! We're f*! hahaha

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Post ID: @fnat+LWh3mks

The Trump effect? HPE -> DXC will suffer for two reasons. Whitman and it's mostly an offshore company now.

Whitman hates Trump and as a result, Trump is simply not going to renew govt contracts. Whitman figured on being a Clinton cabinet member. Trump remembers this stuff.

Second, Trump wants American workers doing American work. That won't work well if the company is staffed by everyone not American.

So Whitman will probably "go"... With a huge golden parachute (which she may need for her legal defense in the coming legal issues she's going to have). Either way, She's done nothing of value as the CEO aside from finishing off a once great American country. Just my opinion.

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Post ID: @9yiv+LWh3mks

"Haha, this is so funny how Americans fight each other."

It's not so funny when you are an American who gets it .... :-(

We are an arrogant bunch.

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Post ID: @2rze+LWh3mks

Haha, this is so funny how Americans fight each other. Listen Americans: there is only black and white, good and bad, nothing else. Never compromise, never acknowledge there something good about the other party. You are always right, if there is something that doesn't fit to your opinion it's obviously fake news or alternative facts.

Please go on like this, it's hilarious for us and a great time for comedians. In the mean time see more people get fired and see China get more influence. And more competitors coming up e.g. in India.

You do a great job. It's so entertaining. And: Trump will not save HPE. (Sorry Trumpies, won't happen. Sad). So far I benefit personally, so don't stop fighting each other, and again: never compromise: only you are right, everyone else is wrong. It's really that simple :-)

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Post ID: @1jhi+LWh3mks

"WTF? What does his -- or anyone's race -- have to with it? Unless you are a racist."

Race has no point. You missed this persons point goofball. You are the injecting race into the equation. Like most on the Left who always inject race, argue with insaliable facts or no substantial evidence to support any claims of wrongdoing. The facts are clear. Trump has done more in 1 mos than the last 8 years from Teflon Obama. The people spoke and they are cleaning house. 2018 will gain more seats on the Right. McCain will even get ousted if he doesnt fess up and do what is right for the country. Keep up the fine display of irrational logic from the media.

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Post ID: @1rzq+LWh3mks

"We had to put up and shut up with a Non white President for 8 years lest we be called bad name."

WTF? What does his -- or anyone's race -- have to with it? Unless you are a racist.

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Post ID: @1alh+LWh3mks

Trump is the right person at the right time in the right place to fix this mess. It took a reality TV star to take this challenge on because our highly touted LEFTWING top notch business schools like Harvard, Yale, Brown and so on can't figure out how to fix a problem in government, business, or the economy anymore because there mind is on GREED and self worth egotism. Some of the finest schools pump out the brightest folks but the cannot solve simple problems or have the hands on experience to address and resolve issues. They can't figure on how to take on risk and are more worried about ruffling feathers at the executive level. Companies go bankrupt and just like HPE our lovely Meggy decisions are hosing up a truly great company and former companies, like EDS, HP, Accenture, Compaq and so on.

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Post ID: @1vyt+LWh3mks

Guys, keep it civil. Personal insults not allowed here, admins may block your IP and nuke all your posts. You might wanna check the site rules in the footer. Just sayin'

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Post ID: @1sly+LWh3mks

sja - I think you have something orange and white on your mouth - you might want to wipe that off, it's unseemly.

Your irrational observation of media coverage reeks of personal bias. There is some bias to political tendencies in the major news networks but I think most rational people believe that our nation's press values honesty and integrity and they feel they have a responsibility to hold our elected leaders accountable.

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Post ID: @1igy+LWh3mks

I see many here are so biased. For example, "The volume of land in the USA is 95% RED Vote. The Large cities on the coastlines are BLUE and need to fall off the map." For one, a true democracy counts the votes of everyone rather than by volume of land. So our system is not a true democracy and that is based on an unbiased perspective because this is just simple fact. Also, the majority of major cities in the U.S. not even by the coastline voted BLUE like Dallas, San Antonio, Nashville, Memphis, and many more. And the biased assessment that Obama didnt do anything, apparently is wrong because before he became president, in 2008 there was an economic collapse with almost a million jobs per month were lost, and its not like that anymore. And all that anti-"Liberal" talking point is retarded because we all have Liberal and Conservative qualities. So that comment is biased. And that "Fake news" talking points. Fake news was there on both sides of the isle. So dont think that only one side is innocent here. This is the problem, you guys have all fell into that bi partisan trap and cant even decipher the right from the wrong. This is how we got Trump and Obama. People need to be more rational and stop the identity politics and just side with a label just because you have been "conservative" or "liberal" all your lives. I swear, the US needs more open minded people.

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Post ID: @ptf+LWh3mks

Liberals created this situation with all the lovey dovey for illegal immigrants, sanctuary city, crime, lack of enforcement of immigration laws, fake news, cooked elections etc. Now you have to deal with it coming ashore and in your face. Enjoy it. Sad state of affairs let it all crumble like every other social state. At least Trump is shaking up this sleeping Giant of America. His unfavorable ratings are due to fake news and media. Odd thing is those so UNINFORMED actually believe the media haahahahahaha. Prolly best you tune out for 6 mos and watch a nice recovery.

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Post ID: @kgv+LWh3mks

Boy, you got that right ..... "Nightmares Unlimited"

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Post ID: @iya+LWh3mks

Trump gets replaced (impeached etc.), Pence takes his place...

Pence appoints XYZ(???, see below for wild speculation), Pence must get replaced (impeached etc.)... We will then have a totally un-elected POTUS...

Just like Gerald Ford way back when... (Do you recall that, my fellow dinosaurs?)

ARE YOU READY for the new POTUS to be... Meg Whitman?!?!?

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Post ID: @nhz+LWh3mks

"His favorably rating is the worst compared to past presidents in their first month in office"

And if he had just done what all those before him (in recent times) have done then I have no doubt that his favorability rating would be better, but then we'd just be doing more of the same that got us here. Can't ask for change and then be surprise that it takes us out of our comfort zone. Of course, he may just be a looney. Hard to say at this point.

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Post ID: @xml+LWh3mks

This level of autism (sja's comment) is the reason why we can't have nice things.

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Post ID: @qlb+LWh3mks

No facts, No evidence, Nothing Illegal. The volume of land in the USA is 95% RED Vote. The Large cities on the coastlines are BLUE and need to fall off the map. We had to put up and shut up with a Non white President for 8 years lest we be called bad name. The media has never blamed Obama for wrongdoings during his 8 years but in Trump's first month they say he has committed several offenses how ludicrous. Fake and distorted news. For the last 8 years No growning economy, no jobs, programs shoved down our throat. For the last 8 years it was awful now Trump has to clean it all up. The media will not destroy Trump but will only fuel his success. The people voted for this change and the Dems are worried he just might be successful. Can you imagine America strong again. Trump throws the media off course so he can devote his time to succeed with his agenda.

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