I have heard minimum 3 years to promote from G8 to G10 and G6 to g8 in Cisco. true ? is rule different for manager people why ?
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Yep. If you don't know the right people, or make yourself visible (i.e. brown-nose or just attend a lot of meetings and babble and present), you will languish.
To really move up, location to SJC is essential.
@3ono, that was me. Foolishly believing that Cisco was a meritocracy, working my arse off and taking on more and more and being supervised less and less. In the end, though, I couldn't break to G11 and bailed. In the end talks, with a pretty heavy offer in hand to jump to another company, it was pretty clear that despite my contributions and efforts, my director didn't even know what I did, what I was responsible for, the wins I had brought to their organization, nothing.
Bailed. Within two years, pay increases twice and a title change.
Wish I'd have gone sooner.
@K95qx0L-5eps - Good detail. I think you summed it up well here.
Hired at G8. After 3 years, promoted to G10. After 4 years, promoted to G11. Spent 7 years as G11 until I moved on for reasons not related to grade level or promotion.
There are many factors that play into being promoted, but one factor that younger or newer employees sometimes miss is that promotions aren't promised to anyone on any particular timeline. For each jump in grade level, an employee assumes more responsibility, and works more independently, with less supervision. With each promotion, you are expected to make more day-to-day decisions, with the business impact of a bad decision growing ever higher with each job grade. Not every worker develops these skills on the same timeline, if at all. In addition, within your group or organization, you're competing with your same-grade colleagues for limited promotion slots, and the higher the job grade, the fewer slots there are. The person who's consistently and noticeably performing 'above grade' - taking the initiative, volunteering for new projects or additional work, making smart decisions, influencing others beyond the group or team - is more likely to get a promotion than someone who simply meets expectations.
To make a long story short - provide the value of someone at the higher grade level, and a promotion TO that grade level is much more likely. Best of luck!
Been a Grade 10 my entire career here @ Cisco. Almost 10 years. Small raises along the way but certainly no promotions. Got LR'd this week and am taking it. Even if I found another position internally, it would be for the same grade and pay.
I should have left sooner. I was expecting keeping my head down and working hard would get me the bigger raise and promotion I believe I had earned. Never had anything but a stellar review and never didn't get my full bonus. That is not the universe which exists at this company. I have made career mistakes here. No more.
First time, shame on me. Second time, shame on them.
It really depends on your Manager. I've heard of a female graduate in S/W development who went from 4 to 6 to 8 in under three years. The golden girl had a pretty smile but was not deserving of her rapid rise from a talent perspective. I also know of a guy who was hired as a six and took 8 years to get to 8.
No minimum. I got hired at 6. Promoted to 8 in a little under 2 years; 8 to 10 in 2 years. Currently on my 5th year at 10. 11s and up, how many years at 10 before you got promoted?
...or how can I add to the business outcome so that my value to the company will increase?
You really don't get promoted for just turning up or doing courses.
"How long do I have to wait to be promoted?"
Based on the way you pose the question, I'd bet 100 RMB or 1000 INR that you're a Millennial (which is great if you're hoping to work at Cisco). This naïve approach is part of the overall problem.
The question should be along the lines of "what incremental responsibilities and skills should I be trying to do/get to be promoted from x to y."
6 to 8 3 yrs, remains 8 for 11 and half yrs and then got LRed 2 yrs ago.
It's completely up to the mgmt team. No hard rule. As you get higher, the folks involved change a bit, but again completely left to the whims of the mgmt team.
I know some superstars that came into TAC at Grade-6 and got to Grade-8 in about o two years. Rare, but it happens. After that it is a slow slog.
Keep in mind that those grade jumps are completely different in Engineering and IT. Not only is the pay band different within those grades, what it takes to make those grade moves is also very different.
I know people who've advanced from 4-to-6 and from 6-to-8 and it wasn't 3 yrs. I do think there is a minimum, but I think it's closer to a year. Unless a team gets a req for a higher grade, it's easy to sit in the same grade forever. The fastest way to promote is to switch teams to fill an internal requirement at a higher grade.
I was at Cisco 3 yrs in one position and 2 yrs in another. In either case, I was never promoted.
i don't think there is a minimum at all and know for a fact people that have advanced from 6 to 8 in less than 3 years .