I believe you may lose some leverage if you admit being laid off to soon in the process. Any advice on when to discuss with potential new employer? Technically, aren't we still employed thru the WARN period?
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I called HR to ask what my last day would be should a prospective employer do a reference check
If not for the next job, but for the next next job, an employer may verify the dates of employment. Will Cisco HR also release the reason for leaving, i.e. layoff?
Do they even need to know?
On resumes, you typically list the dates of employment. It ends for greencard holders on 9/2016 (and, I believe, for non-greencard holders on 10/2016).
It is NOT the full WARN period. It is your last day at Cisco.
what does it mean ? are not the LR'ed folks still with cisco for 2 months ?
Do they even need to know? Can't you just ask that they not contact your current employer for a reference?
I called HR to ask what my last day would be should a prospective employer do a reference check. It is NOT the full WARN period. It is your last day at Cisco. Also, most interviewers dont have issues with layoffs because they are frequent and more a symptom of bad management than poor employee performance. I've had interviewers ask me flat out what's going on at Cisco because they think frequent layoffs are odd.
what I have seen is, the interviewers are very immature/inexperienced in the interview process. And when they dont understand what the candidate is saying, they tend to fail him/her.
It could be because, the work force is becoming younger , and they no longer have time to understand or the humility to agree that they dont know/understand the area/feature well.
No one can force you to disclose that information. Keep in mind that, even with the LR, if another company offered you a dream job, you might be equally inclined to go for it and forego lengthy bargaining. Negotiating positions are often driven by unique factors.
And there is absolutely no stigma to having been laid off these days, so that doesn't make you any less marketable to those who are really interested in your skills.
And never ever say anything overtly disparaging of your old company or senior management team during interviews. Keep those opinions to yourself...
It really depends on your level, political affiliations and length of employment. The higher you are (Grade 13++), then the more suspect you will be, especially if you have 7+ years under your belt. The good news is that most people outside of Cisco know that the process has nothing to do with competence and everything to do with politics. Now, if you happen to come from some VP who is/was a snake, then you might have a hard time explaining why you worked for the dolt for 5 years.
The lower you are in the organization (Grade --12), the easier it is to point to the internal annual culling, especially if you only worked for CSCO for a few years. I think for you if can be simply matter of "They did me a favor and I'm looking for the next opportunity"