What impression did you get of your manager telling you're layed off?
Was he really sorry (and if so, do you still think he feels sorry after more than 1 month)?
Was he indifferent?
Was he happy?
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Does any manager truly care about letting you go? If they didn't want to let you go wouldn't they fight for you? The sincere manager read sounds like BS. Sounds like the decision to let you go was determined and finalized ahead of time. If the manager wanted to fight it, they would. Otherwise they read you the script and maybe give you a few sappy lines of caring before showing you the door.
It depends on the manager. I've been laid off twice from Cisco. The first manager read from the HR script and wouldn't look me in the face. I seriously doubt he cared about me and the impact to my family. The second manager set aside the HR script and genuinely told me how sorry he was to have to give me the bad news. He was genuinely concerned for me and my family. If I'm asked, I'll say he read the HR script like he was supposed to because his honest words to me meant more to me than the politically correct BS that HR provided. He made sure that I had all the info I needed from the HR script without reading a script and took more time with me saying goodbye than if he'd have actually read the script and showed me the door like my first manager did.
The first time, back in '11, we all knew it was coming because the LR was announced 3 months before the employees were notified. Those who suddenly had bad performance reviews knew they were the impacted employees. I had my desk cleaned out the night before my 1-on-1. This time, at least in the US, the announcement was made at the end of the day and the employees were told the next morning. I knew it was me when my manager sent me a meeting invite for a 1-on-1 an hour before the earnings call for the first thing the following morning. I told a few team members about the invite and what I thought it meant. While we were all shocked that our team was being impacted and hoped I was wrong, we were able to look at the manager's calendar and other's calendars to see who had common 30-min meetings that morning and knew who was being let go.
I can only speak to my team this time around, and I think the manager genuinely did not like the fact that he was losing the team members that were being let go. It was definitely a decision made above his level. We are still friends, and keep in touch. I can say, even after a month, he's not happy about the impact to his team but he's making the best of the situation that he can and is moving on with life.
I see on other threads that some people got screwed on their bonuses. I got more than last year, so either the CPF or IPF (company & individual performance factors) was higher this year than last year.
My manager read a very short script and acted very cold. He said he would call me back the following week but never did. After over 15 years with Cisco, you would think he would at least pretend to be sad.
My manager was kind of cold and matter of fact. I could tell he was reading from a script. Also, I hear that immediate managers were not the people making the decisions about who was laid off. Supposedly it was the VP of the organization.
Lets keep it simple and straightforward. If you are still there you are a big looser. And you wont be there too long either.
My manager is walking on thin ice the sharks are swimming under my manager ready to take over our team. The group does not trust or believe in our manager. We all can see our manager winging it.
My manager was cold and bizlike. Short n to the point like reading from a script. He could not care less about his team or Cisco! He just wanted his salary and benefits. He ripped me to pieces after being transferred him for about 3 months though we worked in the same biz unit for over 5 years.
This year he got LR... Karma - love it! What goes around comes around... Majority of Sysco are full of sh--ts and only care about themselves. The good and best have long fled the sinking ship years ago. Sad state!
My mgr donot care beacuse he did layoff and saved to whom he wanted.
He felt me like as RESOURCE
if one goes another comes
My manager could care less and so could I. Actually, I felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders when my manager told me. I've been stress free for a month!
All business.
Short and Not sweet.
2 minutes or less after I have been w the company for more than 20 yrs.
managers has little say as to who be impacted. mangers are only messengers, told to read from script
I had asked mine to be short and sweet, because this manager loved to hear themself talk. While an amiable fellow, I knew this manager to care only for themself. Any apologetic words are useless. Besides, at that time, it is time to pick up and move on.
They nominate you to be fired; they feel remorse. Wake up!
Your good performance in next job is the best answer to them.
SV ?
My manager was upset too. But like as life goes on after someone is gone, sysko life keeps going on as usual. 50% of SV had a layoff experience at some point in life. And thats a awakening experience.
My manager made it look like she was upset and nothing more bad can happen to the team letting me go. Was just for 1 day and from next day she was happy .