Sorry but there was/is a nlrb complaint filed. Sorry but like we have been saying, this is a ulp strike.
"It also proposed a way to maintain and stabilize health care costs. (The Company’s unilateral change in the health care plan was a source of conflict that resulted in the Union’s challenging the Company’s actions through the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).)"
According to a May 3rd Bloomberg article, "Verizon and unions hold the line as strike continues", unfair labor practice charges were filed by the union with nlrb on April 13, including bargaining in bad faith charges. Also in ny state, applicants for nys unemployment were sent determinations that conclude that we are on strike and must wait 49 days before claiming benefits, citing that Verizon has stated to nys that it is NOT hiring permanent replacement workers. If they are, we would get our unemployment immediately.
Thank you responding with backup and examples.
That's great. We lose money every month while they fight in court for years. Awesome plan.
It's not ulp. The complaint wasn't filed before the strike started. If anyone is telling you differently they are mistaken.
There is a reason Verizon is hiring so many new people.
They've been replacing full time w/temps for years. All overseas are con traced vIA a vendorsement agency. All non-union call centers areally contractors. Many PMs are now contractors. All outsourced IT are contractors. As they RIF managers and as union retires and is not replaced they shuffle around for now due to contractual obligations which is why they put specific contract language in their current offer. The companies strategy, and the trend throughout the industry, and to a larger extent throughout Companies large and small, is to use contractors to avoid the liability, benefits, job security, holiday pay, insurance requirements, etc associated with full time perminent workers vs self-employed or otherwise employed (agencies) contractors.
"VZ only intends to use temps..."
How confident are we this is and will remain true?
It will be deemed as ULP strike. Also Verizon will never lockout. This is not up for interpretation . NLRB will make their decision in a timely manor.
Again, this economic vs ulp argument has no bearing because VZ only intends to use temps...not just now but from now on. If union takes current offer or whatever crap offer is given VZ will do the same thing again in 3 yrs, and there will be far fewer union members than there are now just based on attrition w/out replacement(see 2011 numbers vs current). Eventually either the union will refuse to cave and VZ can go ahead with their contractors until they can get the bulk sold off or replaced, leaving the need for far fewer contractors. It's not like they're trying to hide their strategy.
Disagree entirely. Not all Strikers are not entitled to reinstatement. Full excerpt below.
"Economic strikers defined. If the object of a strike is to obtain from the employer some economic concession such as higher wages, shorter hours, or better working conditions, the striking employees are called economic strikers. They retain their status as employees and cannot be discharged, but they can be replaced by their employer. If the employer has hired bona fide permanent replacements who are filling the jobs of the economic strikers when the strikers apply unconditionally to go back to work, the strikers are not entitled to reinstatement at that time. However, if the strikers do not obtain regular and substantially equivalent employment, they are entitled to be recalled to jobs for which they are qualified when openings in such jobs occur if they, or their bargaining representative, have made an unconditional request for their reinstatement. "
Source: https://www.nlrb.gov/strikes
It makes no difference if it's economic or ulp. Lawyers on both sides will argue that for years...that's what they get paid to do. It makes no difference whatsoever in the current environment either way. VZ hasn't hired perminent replacements and they have no intention of hiring perminent replacements. They are currently and will continue to hire temporary contractors. They are never going to perminently replace positions servicing areas of the company they are trying to get rid of through sale, technological replacement, and 'sunsetting. Those still needed for the wireless infrastructure that supports carrier/wireless etc will be supported via contractors. It's clear this is the intent and overt direction they've taken. What type of strike this is has no bearing.
OP, don't worry, your apology is accepted. Let's move on.
Economic Strike
This is NOT an update for Verizon's CBA !!!!!!
It was copies from the ITS negotiations from CWA District 2-13 !!!!!!
http://district2-13.cwa-union.org/
My concern is how long will that process take. Usually anything in the courts takes forever. Good luck
Mooney confident they will win Unfair Labor Practice.
Union guy here. Mooney said right now it's an economic strike with unfair labor charges pending. Not sure where that stands.